[CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
- From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:20:55 -0600
I remember the old lever machines from as far back as 1963 when I was in
first grade - big roll in machines that the lever also worked the curtain
on. Never a problem with those other than accusations of tampering when
Richard J. Daley (the old man, not this twerp there now) was mayor long ago.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric C. Vogel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:58 AM
> To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
>
>
>
> I live in a small city. Two Precents. I went to vote after 8a and
> there was
> 10-15 ahead of me. The other side was pretty good. They should
> have moved a
> booth over.
>
> Note, we have booths, complete the arrow with a black maker, rip a tag off
> the balot, toss it in the trash, hand the person a slip, slip the balot in
> the OptiScanner and put the protective folder on top of the machine.
> Scanning is fast and is not the slow down, people voting is.
> These replaced
> the pull lever to close curtains pull levers and pull curtain
> lever to cast
> vote and get out.
>
> Well the equivilant of Clinton got elected. our Attorney General, Jennifer
> Grahnholm (D). She gave no bid contracts to her husband (construction) for
> The new Midfield Airport. She is part of the Ed Macnamara engine
> (Top county
> guy for Wayne (Detroit)) so more unscruplious stuff. (Points to Midfield
> Terminal again as one.). Got into reperations, she has changed
> her mind on a
> issue (maybe more I do not know) for some group or something. We loose the
> Govenor, currently Republican. For the primary we had even worse D's
> Blanchard (Former Gov.) and anouther, but would do worse than Granholm and
> are nothign bug clowns. I have voted for R,D, Independent
> parties, I believe
> in let the best person win.
>
> Fortunatly Prop 3 was turned down. (Tobbacco money.) It would have taken
> control of how the money was distrobuted from the government and
> would have
> gone to whoever and lost part of our freedom. Current Gov. and running all
> were against it, plus other current and past politiions.
>
> The old Prop A (Arts) came back as Prop K (Now Arts Parks and Kids). Just
> rasies taxs to go to ARTS places (Parks and Kids was added to get
> it passed
> and I think it did.) If I want to donate money, I will write a check. I do
> not need the government to tell me to. I read something in the Det Free
> Press that these places that get the money are doing well and borrowing
> money to expand buildings. Belle Isle Zoo is doing bad (Ran by
> Detroit Zoo.
> But the Zoo CEO or president gets $300,000 a year, house AND car. But
> they'll shut down Belle Isle zoo I bet.
>
> I cannot find a website the lists the results of the proposals or all of
> anything including michigan.gov and tv station websites.
>
> Far as I know none of my friends vote and I do not even want to hear an
> exuse. "Oh, I don't follow politics, so that is why I did not vote." You
> should see the smiles and the faces of the older people when this mid-20's
> man walks in. That is REALLY sad.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Eric Vogel
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:49 PM
> Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
>
>
> >
> > Here's a typical example of why people make fun of those in
> rural areas as
> > "hayseeds", "hicks", etc...
> >
> > We live in a town of 800, with the unincorporated area around it also
> voting
> > at the same place. The machines are electronic with a motor to
> roll paper
> > around for write-ins and a touch pad for balloted votes. The total
> > population of registered voters is around 1500. There are 12
> hours, 6am to
> > 6pm, to vote in. Say 1200 eligible voters show in that 12 hours...that's
> 200
> > per hour divied by 60 minutes per hour, or 3.5 voters PER MINUTE. Guess
> what
> > we have at our polling place - ONE MACHINE and ONE SPARE. When
> they opened
> > at 6am the primary machine was DOA and they spare became the
> primary. The
> > primary machine broke once per 30 minutes all day long, average
> 10 minutes
> > to get the machine back on and usable. Yada, yada, yada - you get the
> idea.
> > I was lucky enough to get in after they swapped the primary DOA with the
> > spare at 6:05am
> >
> > Well my wife went at 10:30am - at noon she was 5 people away - BROKE
> again.
> > They had the one tech across the county with yet another broken machine
> and
> > she had an appointment so she left to come back. I went back with her at
> > 3:15pm....she finally got her 12 seconds of glory at 6:35pm with 200
> others
> > that hadn't voted still there waiting that had come before the
> doors wrre
> > locked at 6:00pm exactly. It's now 9:45 pm and they still have 25 people
> to
> > let vote since the machines have locked up or in other ways broken every
> 30
> > mins or so. The amchine is not worn out by any means either - the
> mechanical
> > counter that shows total votes in the machine's life only had 3300 on it
> > when she voted, and the LED for votes since today's poll
> started was 975.
> Go
> > figure - 4.5 hrs to vote for 12 seconds.
> >
> > Many people got pissed and left - what a shame. We may end up
> with one of
> > the people that have no business running get into an office
> because 10 or
> 15
> > people left and didn't vote, despite goingt hrough all the
> trouble to get
> > out and give it a shot.
> >
> > I'm applying for absentee next time around and voting at home,
> by mail, 2
> > weeks in advance. I qualify with my job being so flexible and a service
> call
> > possibly being away. This screwed up system will not keep me from voting
> but
> > I will find an easier way...
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John
> > > McLaughlin
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:06 PM
> > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have not gone to a polling place for about 6 years. The "vote by
> mail"
> > > ability in Arizona allows one to get the ballot early and
> > > actually research the
> > > little known candidates for school boards, county and state
> > > positions (who knows
> > > anything about a state mine inspector) and the sometimes very
> > > weird propositions
> > > that voter signatures have placed on the ballot. One will
> allow medical
> > > marijuana to be sold by the state highway patrol from their
> > > confiscated stocks.
> > > If nothing else, purity of product will be hard to guarantee!
> > >
> > > I dislike a lot of things about what we do in this country, but
> > > most of all I
> > > hate to hear whining from folks who don't vote and claim their
> > > vote does not
> > > make a difference. Where your vote really does not make a
> > > difference, like
> > > Iraq, you pretty much have to vote and sign your ballot.
> Otherwise.....
> > >
> > > John on the low desert of Arizona - 80 degrees today!
> > >
> > > Russ Blakeman wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hard to forget that it's voting day, those that don't generally
> > > don't have
> > > > much a good excuse why they didn't either. I was #4 at poll door at
> 6am
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > > Eric C. Vogel
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:50 AM
> > > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: [CTS] Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Michigan Links
> > > > > www.mlive.com (See Governor debate in Grand Rapids)
> > > > > www.michigan.gov (State of Michigan portal site. Won major
> > > awards. No more
> > > > > www.state.mi.us/sds/d/sd/sd/s/ds/ds/d/s/d)
> > > > > www.michigan.gov/sos (Secretary of State)
> > > > > www.sospublius.org (Ran by SOS see where to vote and see the
> > > ballot. Note
> > > > > you may not see city proposals. You can find some Bios and
> > > campaign funds
> > > > > from somewhere. Maybe the state??)
> > > > > http://www.lwvmi.org League of Woman Voters of MI (Great guide to
> > > > > find info
> > > > > for smaller candidates.)
> > > > >
> > > > > National Links
> > > > > www.dnet.org A little slow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Eric Vogel
> > > > >
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