[CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
- From: "Peter" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:55:11 -0500
How far are you from South Bend, IN?
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Peter
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From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric C.
Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:58 PM
To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
I live in a small city. Two Precents. I went to vote after 8a and there
was 10-15 ahead of me. The other side was pretty good. They should have
moved a booth over.
Note, we have booths, complete the arrow with a black maker, rip a tag
off the balot, toss it in the trash, hand the person a slip, slip the
balot in the OptiScanner and put the protective folder on top of the
machine. Scanning is fast and is not the slow down, people voting is.
These replaced the pull lever to close curtains pull levers and pull
curtain lever to cast vote and get out.
Well the equivilant of Clinton got elected. our Attorney General,
Jennifer Grahnholm (D). She gave no bid contracts to her husband
(construction) for The new Midfield Airport. She is part of the Ed
Macnamara engine (Top county guy for Wayne (Detroit)) so more
unscruplious stuff. (Points to Midfield Terminal again as one.). Got
into reperations, she has changed her mind on a issue (maybe more I do
not know) for some group or something. We loose the Govenor, currently
Republican. For the primary we had even worse D's Blanchard (Former
Gov.) and anouther, but would do worse than Granholm and are nothign bug
clowns. I have voted for R,D, Independent parties, I believe in let the
best person win.
Fortunatly Prop 3 was turned down. (Tobbacco money.) It would have taken
control of how the money was distrobuted from the government and would
have gone to whoever and lost part of our freedom. Current Gov. and
running all were against it, plus other current and past politiions.
The old Prop A (Arts) came back as Prop K (Now Arts Parks and Kids).
Just rasies taxs to go to ARTS places (Parks and Kids was added to get
it passed and I think it did.) If I want to donate money, I will write a
check. I do not need the government to tell me to. I read something in
the Det Free Press that these places that get the money are doing well
and borrowing money to expand buildings. Belle Isle Zoo is doing bad
(Ran by Detroit Zoo. But the Zoo CEO or president gets $300,000 a year,
house AND car. But they'll shut down Belle Isle zoo I bet.
I cannot find a website the lists the results of the proposals or all
of anything including michigan.gov and tv station websites.
Far as I know none of my friends vote and I do not even want to hear an
exuse. "Oh, I don't follow politics, so that is why I did not vote." You
should see the smiles and the faces of the older people when this
mid-20's man walks in. That is REALLY sad.
Thank you,
Eric Vogel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
>
> Here's a typical example of why people make fun of those in rural
> areas as "hayseeds", "hicks", etc...
>
> We live in a town of 800, with the unincorporated area around it also
voting
> at the same place. The machines are electronic with a motor to roll
> paper around for write-ins and a touch pad for balloted votes. The
> total population of registered voters is around 1500. There are 12
> hours, 6am to 6pm, to vote in. Say 1200 eligible voters show in that
> 12 hours...that's
200
> per hour divied by 60 minutes per hour, or 3.5 voters PER MINUTE.
> Guess
what
> we have at our polling place - ONE MACHINE and ONE SPARE. When they
> opened at 6am the primary machine was DOA and they spare became the
> primary. The primary machine broke once per 30 minutes all day long,
> average 10 minutes to get the machine back on and usable. Yada, yada,
> yada - you get the
idea.
> I was lucky enough to get in after they swapped the primary DOA with
> the spare at 6:05am
>
> Well my wife went at 10:30am - at noon she was 5 people away - BROKE
again.
> They had the one tech across the county with yet another broken
> machine
and
> she had an appointment so she left to come back. I went back with her
> at 3:15pm....she finally got her 12 seconds of glory at 6:35pm with
> 200
others
> that hadn't voted still there waiting that had come before the doors
> wrre locked at 6:00pm exactly. It's now 9:45 pm and they still have 25
> people
to
> let vote since the machines have locked up or in other ways broken
> every
30
> mins or so. The amchine is not worn out by any means either - the
mechanical
> counter that shows total votes in the machine's life only had 3300 on
> it when she voted, and the LED for votes since today's poll started
> was 975.
Go
> figure - 4.5 hrs to vote for 12 seconds.
>
> Many people got pissed and left - what a shame. We may end up with one
> of the people that have no business running get into an office because
> 10 or
15
> people left and didn't vote, despite goingt hrough all the trouble to
> get out and give it a shot.
>
> I'm applying for absentee next time around and voting at home, by
> mail, 2 weeks in advance. I qualify with my job being so flexible and
> a service
call
> possibly being away. This screwed up system will not keep me from
> voting
but
> I will find an easier way...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John
> > McLaughlin
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:06 PM
> > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [CTS] Re: Please do not forget to vote today!!
> >
> >
> >
> > I have not gone to a polling place for about 6 years. The "vote by
mail"
> > ability in Arizona allows one to get the ballot early and actually
> > research the little known candidates for school boards, county and
> > state positions (who knows
> > anything about a state mine inspector) and the sometimes very
> > weird propositions
> > that voter signatures have placed on the ballot. One will allow
medical
> > marijuana to be sold by the state highway patrol from their
> > confiscated stocks.
> > If nothing else, purity of product will be hard to guarantee!
> >
> > I dislike a lot of things about what we do in this country, but most
> > of all I hate to hear whining from folks who don't vote and claim
> > their vote does not
> > make a difference. Where your vote really does not make a
> > difference, like
> > Iraq, you pretty much have to vote and sign your ballot.
Otherwise.....
> >
> > John on the low desert of Arizona - 80 degrees today!
> >
> > Russ Blakeman wrote:
> >
> > > Hard to forget that it's voting day, those that don't generally
> > don't have
> > > much a good excuse why they didn't either. I was #4 at poll door
> > > at
6am
> > > here.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > Eric C. Vogel
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:50 AM
> > > > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [CTS] Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please do not forget to vote today!!
> > > >
> > > > Michigan Links
> > > > www.mlive.com (See Governor debate in Grand Rapids)
> > > > www.michigan.gov (State of Michigan portal site. Won major
> > awards. No more
> > > > www.state.mi.us/sds/d/sd/sd/s/ds/ds/d/s/d)
> > > > www.michigan.gov/sos (Secretary of State) www.sospublius.org
> > > > (Ran by SOS see where to vote and see the
> > ballot. Note
> > > > you may not see city proposals. You can find some Bios and
> > campaign funds
> > > > from somewhere. Maybe the state??)
> > > > http://www.lwvmi.org League of Woman Voters of MI (Great guide
> > > > to find info for smaller candidates.)
> > > >
> > > > National Links
> > > > www.dnet.org A little slow.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Eric Vogel
> > > >
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