[CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
- From: "Charles R. Buchanan" <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:31:49 -0800
I would try that as well, but if both drives are SATA, then it wouldn't
matter which drive he have installed because as far as XP is concerned,
the drives doesn't exist! Believe it or not, Vista is the same way.
You'd think they would have at the very least have some generic driver
or something. SATA drives aren't exactly new! :-D
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 15:41:34 -0600, "Bran x86" <branx86@xxxxxxxxx> came up with
this:
> First how many HDD are in this PC. If two HDD's and one is used for storage
> leave the storage drive out until windows is loaded.
> Second sounds like you need to do a in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of
> Windows XP ( http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341 ) if you trying to
> preserve data that is on the disk. If you are using a SATA HDD you may have
> to use drivers to get windows to see the SATA drive.
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2007 2:36 PM, Eric C. Vogel <ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I put It in the combination mode. Right now it reboots somewhere durring
> > or
> > after installing device drivers. there are NO SATA controller drivers.
> > Just
> > a maxtor driver and the HD Is Seagate. Unless it is the intel Chipset.
> > controller is in MB.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Eric Vogel
> > Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Charles R. Buchanan" <daphatbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:56 PM
> > To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> >
> > > Maybe this will help?
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2e66wt
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:44:14 -0500, "Eric C. Vogel" <ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > came up with this:
> > >
> > >> Ok new problem
> > >>
> > >> Windows while coming up from a reboot because of me trying to do a
> > >> upgrade
> > >> instead I could not hit enter to coontinue so I went back to the retail
> > >> full
> > >> of XP now it reboots going back to the installer.
> > >>
> > >> All I can get is cannot write and volume the message disapears too
> > fast.
> > >> This is with the new HD. I played with the memory so it is not it or
> > the
> > >> slots I think. Either needs a SATA HDD Contoler or a new mB?
> > >>
> > >> Thank you,
> > >> Eric Vogel
> > >> Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > >> http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > >> http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
> > >>
> > >> --------------------------------------------------
> > >> From: "Eric C. Vogel" <ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:11 AM
> > >> To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >>
> > >> > Yes, you were right!!
> > >> > Thank you,
> > >> > Eric Vogel
> > >> > Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > >> > http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > >> > http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
> > >> >
> > >> > --------------------------------------------------
> > >> > From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:03 PM
> > >> > To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> > Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >> >
> > >> >> A-hem.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ->-----Original Message-----
> > >> >> ->From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> ->[mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric C.
> > >> >> Vogel
> > >> >> ->Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:20 PM
> > >> >> ->To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> ->Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >> >> ->
> > >> >> ->
> > >> >> ->And the answer is?...... The Hard Drive
> > >> >> ->
> > >> >> ->Error Code 0F00:024
> > >> >> ->MSG Block 213284065 Uncorrectable data error or media is write
> > >> >> protected.
> > >> >> ->
> > >> >> ->Looks like I gotta image the HD to the server, buy a HD.
> > >> >> ->
> > >> >> ->Thank you,
> > >> >> ->Eric Vogel
> > >> >> ->Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > >> >> ->http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > >> >> ->http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
> > >> >> ->
> > >> >> ->--------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> ->From: "Eric C. Vogel" <ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 2:07 PM
> > >> >> ->To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >> >> ->
> > >> >> ->> There are only two lights. Power and HDD. I thought in this
> > >> >> ->case the power
> > >> >> ->> light would blink the colors. Demention 4700. Tests are almost
> > >> >> done.
> > >> >> ->>
> > >> >> ->> Thank you,
> > >> >> ->> Eric Vogel
> > >> >> ->> Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > >> >> ->> http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > >> >> ->> http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
> > >> >> ->>
> > >> >> ->> --------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> ->> From: "Bran x86" <branx86@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:01 PM
> > >> >> ->> To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->> Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >> >> ->>
> > >> >> ->>> When the PC will not boot which of the 4 lights are lit up, and
> > >> >> note
> > >> >> ->>> the color.please post the model of the dell But if reseating
> > >> >> ->>> everything has fixed it then your golden.
> > >> >> ->>>
> > >> >> ->>>
> > >> >> ->>> On 11/6/07, Eric C. Vogel <ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >> ->>>> I am running dell tests right now. I did reseat mem and vid
> > >> >> card.
> > >> >> Even
> > >> >> ->>>> before that it has been booting fine today.
> > >> >> ->>>>
> > >> >> ->>>> Thank you,
> > >> >> ->>>> Eric Vogel
> > >> >> ->>>> Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > >> >> ->>>> http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > >> >> ->>>> http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
> > >> >> ->>>>
> > >> >> ->>>> --------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> ->>>> From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhb57@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:27 AM
> > >> >> ->>>> To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->>>> Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >> >> ->>>>
> > >> >> ->>>> > Strip it to the mobo with memory and video, see if it POSTs.
> > >> >> If
> > >> >> not
> > >> >> ->>>> > then
> > >> >> ->>>> > try
> > >> >> ->>>> > a temp power supply. If the same might be mem or CPU or bad
> > >> >> mobo.
> > >> >> ->>>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> > If it POSTs ok without swapping PSU then add one thing at a
> > >> >> ->time, HD
> > >> >> ->>>> > then
> > >> >> ->>>> > CD/DVDm then one card, etc till you duplicate the problem.
> > >> >> ->>>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->-----Original Message-----
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->[mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
> > >> >> ->Of Eric C.
> > >> >> ->>>> > Vogel
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:39 AM
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Hello Bran,
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->I will give everything a try. I got the map, only thing it
> > >> >> does
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->not help. It
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->goes Yellow, then stays green, HDD light lits for a moment
> > >> >> or
> > >> >> two
> > >> >> ->>>> > then
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->nothing. It has not given me the 3rd and 4th light in
> > >> >> sequenced
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->since I knew
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->of the map and started watching. I dunno what happened in
> > >> >> ->the past.
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Thank you,
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Eric Vogel
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->--------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->From: "Bran x86" <branx86@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:20 PM
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->Subject: [CTS] Re: PC Will not boot sometimes
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->> Sounds like CPU or Memory, if you have any cards in any
> > >> >> slots
> > >> >> I
> > >> >> ->>>> > would
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->> remove all cards and install one by one until the
> > >> >> ->symptons appear
> > >> >> ->>>> > , or
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->> just reseat all the cards. Their is a map to the 4
> > >> >> ->lights just do
> > >> >> ->>>> > a
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->> google search.
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->> On 11/5/07, Hugh Vandervoort <hughva@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> Most Dellls have diagnostic software to test the HD. I
> > >> >> ->think it's
> > >> >> ->>>> > F12
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> when you boot. Just run the IDE test, which tell you
> > >> >> ->if you have
> > >> >> ->>>> > a HD
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> problem.
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>>
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> On Nov 5, 2007 11:44 AM, Eric C. Vogel
> > >> >> -><ECVogel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > Dell Demention 4700 Light goes yellow/orange then
> > >> >> ->green and the
> > >> >> ->>>> > HDD
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > light
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > lits for a sec then nothing. Turn off by holding
> > >> >> ->power button
> > >> >> ->>>> > for
> > >> >> ->>>> > 15
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > sec
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > cause a quick push does not work then it turns on. No
> > >> >> beeps.
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > I have a 3 page thing from the manual with a 4 light
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->sequance to tell
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > me
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > what is wrong but it has yet to do that for me.
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > Another time the fans just kept getting louder but
> > that
> > >> >> was
> > >> >> ->>>> > before
> > >> >> ->>>> > I
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> relized
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > about the 4 light sequance thing. What ever happened
> > >> >> ->to beeps?
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> >
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > Thank you,
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > Eric Vogel
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > Computer Running Slow? Need PC Help?
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > http://www.beacontechnologysolutionsllc.com
> > >> >> ->>>> > ->>> > http://www.msmvps.com/shelluser
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