Oops totally forgot one occasion that I worked a stickie drive for a machine shop - used dry ice on that one thanks to the quick thinking of the machinist that does the "sweat fitting" of parts. -----Original Message----- From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Russ Blakeman Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:11 PM To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [CTS] Re: Hardrive Problem? No but I do have freezers in my shop and at most of my client's sites - they have to chill the beer and have ice for the scotch somewhere - and I have packed them into a static bag and packed them into the snow in the winter or put them into the direct blast of the A/C on other occasions - even used a cold pack from a first aid kit on one. -----Original Message----- From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cuffy10@xxxxxxx Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:08 PM To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [CTS] Re: Hardrive Problem? In a message dated 5/21/04 6:35:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rhb57@xxxxxxxxxx writes: 200ways.zip attached to this message Russ, if you carry a freezer in your truck I think you'll be safe. The freezer trick seems to be far and away the most popular but I seriously doubt a period of 15, 30 mins will help. A minimum of overnight is my solution. The heat and cold treatment will work in other places too. I cold soaked a large drill chuck that was frozen solid, nothing would move, and after overnight in the freezer, warming the outer ring with a torch and voila'... $75 saved. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Education is when you read the fine print. Experience is what you get if you don't. -- Pete Seeger"