[COMP] Re: since the list is quite...could I get some LMhosts help please?

Thanks Mark

you wrote:
"Computer names are needed for everything when it comes
to networking.  What do you think happens when you open
a web browser and get www.sony.com?  That is just a name,
which _resolves_ to an IP address."

So...what happens on the Internet with dns also has to
happen within a intranet?

each box needs to have name resolution?

so...my lan thinks it has a domain???
Oh, as far as the lan is concerned it IS a domain??
it's just not a domain that is registered with the world's
dns setup?
I think I read that there is something called Root that is
a central kinda dns database.
So what does that mean...a lan can have a domain even though
the world (internet) doesn't recognize it as a DOMAIN

you also wrote:
"Whenever you connect to a network drive
it is  totally diferent than accessing a local drive.
You are accessing data on a drive which is not physically
a part of your system, and this raises some serious
and legitimate security concerns."

Since I am behind a linksys, with it's nat, don't I have
significantly
less security problems?

----------------------------
more questions
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Will I have to enter a password each time I access another box
within
my lan?

If so, that's ok...will I also have to enter a username to
get/send files
between the boxes on the lan?

<thinking here...then...each machine would have to have a user
account
that would allow a specific box on the lan to get/send/see files
on each
other...much like what I have to do to get into one of my website
host
accounts. I don't just magically go to my web host- I have to
tell it who
I am, and prove it with a password.>

So that's what you mean by authenticating...

Is the reason I've not had to do this so far within a windows lan
because
so far the boxes were set up peer to peer?
meaning peer to peer doesn't require each box that wishes to
have access/grant access to another also have to create an
account before
they can share/send?

I think I remember someone at the lug meeting creating an account
on my
linux box for me to decide what I wanted to share on the linux
box.
In windows I right click on a drive or a partition, or even a
folder to
decide if it is to be shared. A very helpful person in our lug
had pity on me
and ssh-ed the newest version of samba from his laptop to my box.

I watched helplessly...nothing even closey resembling windoze
networking going on.

Will I have to create a separate account (on the linux box) for
each windows
box on the lan?

(maybe I'm confusing myself...wouldn't be the first time:)

I didn't know there was a hosts file in addition to the lmhosts
file.
thanks

I think I'll try disconnecting the linksys and the cable modem
and get the lan
to work thru a hub via tcp/ip first (with no internet connection
at all while
I'm testing it)

the linksys IS the server...well it's the dhcp server on the lan.
the linux box is setup as workstation because the default server
install will
delete all partitions (windows included). the linux box is not
the server.

I figured it would be too confusing for me to learn what is going
on if the
linksys is acting as a server and the linux box is also a server.

If I knew what I was doing with the setup, I'd not need the
linksys at all
would I?

Is there any security benefit to having two NATs?
i.e. the linksys NAT first, then a linux NAT, then the lan?


You wrote:
"What is the last column for???
Another name that could be resolved to that IP.
Still, for small LAN's host files will work well enough."

So does that mean I don't necessarily HAVE to have the third
column
for it to work?

There are two columns in addition to the ip address column...
and they both are for name resolution...

Is the second column for the individual computer name and the
last
column for an internal domain?

am I even close??

Many thanks
David Jr

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Symonds" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <computers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:27 AM
Subject: [COMP] Re: since the list is quite...could I get some
LMhosts help please?


>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Bruce Jr" <dbartbruce@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <computers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:31 PM
> Subject: [COMP] Re: since the list is quite...could I get some
LMhosts help please?
>
>
> >
> > Thanks, umm...
> >
> > you wrote:
> > "Unless you want to use IP addresses to do your network
mappings"
> >
> > mappings?
> >
>
> lmhosts is used for _lan-manager_ hosts, afaik you do not
> want that nor do you want to use that file for TCP/IP name
resolution.
> What you want to use instead is hosts.  Look at hosts.sam in
> your windows directory, that is what you want.  Modify it, save
it
> (without a file extension), and it should work.
>
> > the only way I know what to do with a mapped drive is to get
it
> > to
> > show up in windows explorer so I don't have to go hunting
thru
> > network neighborhood every time I want to get or put a file
on
> > another box...
> >
>
> Right, that's how you do it.  For security purposes samba can
> also authenticate users for a windows NT domain.
>
> > This leads me to think that there is more to mapping than
just
> > putting
> > a short cut to an external box...
> >
>
> Yes, there is.  Whenever you connect to a network drive
> it is  totally diferent than accessing a local drive.
> You are accessing data on a drive which is not physically
> a part of your system, and this raises some serious
> and legitimate security concerns.
>
> > methinks linux will not be *visible* (which can be
interpreted
> > many ways?)
>
> On windows, if you can't see it, then it isn't on the network.
> If users can't click on it ... well it must not be there!
haha! :)
>
> > until I get the boxes to *see* each other via tcp/ip
> >
>
> Try pinging your linux server from the windows clients.
> If there is a response, then you know that the physical
> network connection is good, and take it from there.
>
> >
> > umm, I'm supposed to NOT use the # symbol...right?
> >
>
> In the hosts file, consider any line beginning with
> a '#' to be a comment.
>
> > isn't the ampersand supposed to be for *commenting*?
>
> Depends on which language your using.
>
> > and commenting is something you do so the code won't
> > be run- isn't it put there as a human readable note?
> > like a cgi script- if ya take the # off
> > the machine will run the code
> > put the # in front
> > and the machine will disregard what follows?
>
> Right, that's a comment.
>
> # These lines will not be seen as a host entry
> # in the file, but the next one will
>
> 192.168.1.1    myserver.net
>
> ... after doing that, "ping myserver.net" will
> make the machine with this in it's file start
> trying to ping 192.168.1.1 on your network.
>
> >
> >
> > Ok, the first *column* is the ip address?
> >
>
> Yes
>
> > What is the second column for ? the computer name?
> >
>
> Right
>
> > (probably not...computer names are only needed for windows?)
> >
>
> Computer names are needed for everything when it comes
> to networking.  What do you think happens when you open
> a web browser and get www.sony.com?  That is just a name,
> which _resolves_ to an IP address.
>
> > What is the last column for???
> >
>
> Another name that could be resolved to that IP.
>
> Still, for small LAN's host files will work well enough.
> Methinks you might have greater problems than that, though.
>
> --
> Mark
>
>
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