thanks...I found out what was wrong... I changed the path in /etc/skel from /home/user to /home/user/www/cgi-bin some users had proftp conf with the old path of /home/user those could not upload or chmod in ftp those created after I'd changed the path could It was hard to figure out why some users had upload and chmod permissions and others did not. For a while I wondered if some users had permissions that others did not... It seems to have been the path that was wrong as I downloaded the affected users www directory, deleted the user added the user back, and uploaded their www folder That works now... Could I have changed the ENV path to fix this without taking the site down and putting it back up? Thanks David ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Madden" <weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <computers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 6:01 PM Subject: [COMP] Re: newbie unix question...how do I change permissions of a user? > > > where do I see what permissions a group has? > > Group permissions are also stored on the file's permission bits: > > -rwxr-x-r-x > ^^^ > These are the group's permissions. > > John > > > > > > > -- > # John Madden weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ: 2EB9EA > # FreeLists, Free mailing lists for all: http://www.freelists.org > # UNIX Systems Engineer, Ivy Tech State College: http://www.ivy.tec.in.us > # Linux, Apache, Perl and C: All the best things in life are free! > ======================================== > Avenir Web's Computers Mailing List > > List Modes, Subscription, and General Info: > Go to http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/webpage?webpage_id=11 > List Archives: http://www.freelists.org/archives/computers > Administrative Contact: weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Get computer help: http://avenir.dhs.org > ======================================== ======================================== Avenir Web's Computers Mailing List List Modes, Subscription, and General Info: Go to http://www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/webpage?webpage_id=11 List Archives: http://www.freelists.org/archives/computers Administrative Contact: weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Get computer help: http://avenir.dhs.org ========================================