Well, when it comes to Telnet, I know alot about it. I use a telnet program called Portal. It's an esaier way to use telnet programs, because it lets you have macros and have a database of telnet providers. Also I like MUD's. I know a little on how to program them. So I also use telnet feature in that sense. Alot of telnet programs use there Telnet ip. But also port, which is a specific part of the server which you connect to. One telnet ip can have several Ports. There is always a recommended port though. But if you would like to check out a cool MUD. Use: Moongate.net port 4000 It's neat, It's a chat based role playing game, with am entire world an no limits on what you can do. Luke