It appears that if you are any kind of designer, be it Web, Music, and especially Solid modeling (CAD), you have to become be a Microsoft customer. And this is quite unfortunate, because every time I am forced to use Windows, I find the whole interface so much worse to work with than Linux Desktop. I feel a bit pity for most PC users who've been deprived a better experience. If China or other countries do something in this regard it would be wonderful. If I was a foreign entity I wouldn't want to see my national IT infrastructure be controlled by propriatory formats. Even Google Sketchup is for Windows only -:( I want to reiterate that the dinosaurs would have never died out in a natural course of evolution - it takes a meteorite to to clan things up. A platform independent CAD system, such as Python CAD may be a great idea. Andrei On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Carlos Contreras <clubcientifico@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > I think some countries have the power and are interested in having > independent CAD system. China, by example, developed FreeCAD some time ago > but for Windows, maybe so large a country, with the largest engineering > community, have interest in open source software. > regards > > -- > Carlos Contreras, presidente > Club Científico de Peñalolén, Santiago, CHILE > http://www.clubcientifico.cl > fono/fax. 562-7691307 09-2114827 > > > 2009/3/4 Dave Jacques <engrafdave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > I sure would like to see some kind of renaissance of Cad for linux. I am > > however out here on the bleeding edge of architecture and the standards > are > > just so high. I certainly would use something on Linux if it were > available > > and I do watch this group for that reason. The state of CAD to is such > that > > unless Windows were to just fall off the planet there is no way there > will > > be any kind of effective CAD in the Linux domain. I hate to say this I > > really do but, facts are facts. The changes I have seen in the past five > > years are mind blowing, I would just be happy with something that is on > the > > level of oh, say release 12 of autocad. It wouldn't even have to be X > based. > > I sure wish that AutoDesk was mor altruistic in nature... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrei Smirnov <andrei.v.smirnov@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: cad-linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 9:29 pm > > Subject: [cad-linux] Re: cad-linux still alive [if only on > life-support...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > I just can't help letting some steam out on the issue. I've been using > > Linux > > for most of my professional life. And now I work at a company where I am > > developing software on Linux. However, when it comes to CAD, 100% of > people > > in my company use Windows versions. And this seems the case elsewhere. > CAD > > is a specific software controlled by a few vendors, which is sufficiently > > complex to write and brings a lot of revenue. I guess they reckoned that > > porting it to Linux will not pay off, since this is such a small market > > share, and the maintenance and support are costly. Nothing to say about > the > > Microsoft policies. > > > > I remember several years ago, when I worked at the University, I > installed > > Linux version of Pro-E at the computer lab with some 40 workstations, > which > > I also converted all to Linux. It worked for a while, but the Linux > version > > had glitches, and then Linux support for Pro-E was discontinued. The > whole > > lab was turned back to Windows. > > > > There is simply no enough demand for CAD on Linux, and for Linux in > > general. > > And that is in part because there is not enough exposure to Linux by > > vendors. Practically all new computers are sold with Windows > pre-installed. > > A vast majority of people will not think of buying a computer and > > reinstalling the operating system. Once a status-quo has been established > > it > > almost takes a miracle to break it. Do you think that the dinosaurs would > > have died naturally in the course of evolution? I think that if it was > not > > for that asteroid that killed them, we would have never had a chance. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andrei > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Carlos Contreras, presidente > Club Científico de Peñalolén, Santiago, CHILE > http://www.clubcientifico.cl > fono/fax. 562-7691307 09-2114827 > > > -- Andrei V. Smirnov, PhD.