[bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
- From: Jody McKinniss <jlove42010@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:52:05 -0400
Robert, in your test audio to me, I did not hear you issue a command
to open the ATC window. So I am wondering at what point you opened
the window. I guess what I am asking is, after the flight has been
loaded, when the sound of the plane starts, and after "captain, it's
your plane...", should I immediately say, "toggle ATC," or should I
wait until Michelle says "get IFR clearance."
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Upon reflection, I believe the simplest way to address this issue is to
> simply leave the ATC window always open as described in the current
> documentation for the new SimpleATC.
>
> The documentation reads:
>
> ============================
> NOTE: In the Blind Pilot mode, the ATC Window remains open at all times while
> in flight. This feature can be enabled and disabled. SeeVoice Commands >
> Blind Pilots/Visually Impaired area for details.
> ============================
>
> Instead of just in-flight, I will leave it open all of the time.
>
> I will add this to the final release of 4.1.0.266
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Tony <tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Give it a go.
>>
>> At least with 13 you have the OCR functionality should you need it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Jody McKinniss
>> Sent: 28 April 2012 10:32
>> To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
>>
>> I am using JFW 11, but I could use 13 if need be.
>>
>> On 4/27/12, Tony <tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > And you Jody? Which version of JFW?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > On Behalf Of Ron Kolesar
>> > Sent: 27 April 2012 23:27
>> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Both my brother and I are using the latest which is version thirteen.
>> >
>> > HTH
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
>> > cane paws down any day of the week."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Tony <mailto:tonys_groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:12 PM
>> >
>> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > What version of JFW are you using?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:bvipilots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > On Behalf Of Jody McKinniss
>> > Sent: 27 April 2012 23:04
>> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Interesting. JFW never tells me "ATC." Exactly what are the correct
>> > settings for JFW to accomplish this? I wonder if I have JFW set so
>> > that it can't tell me. If, indeed, JFW should tell me in its current
>> > state, then this could very well explain the original problem I have
>> > been having...the state of the ATC window is incorrect.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Ron Kolesar
>> > <kolesar16417@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Robert.
>> >
>> > Please correct me if I am wrong, or a fellow BVI pilot who's using
>> > JAWS can correctly me if I am wrong.
>> >
>> > But I have notice while flying that JAWS wil tell us without doing
>> > anything when it is switching to ATC.
>> >
>> > At least I've heard it say from time to time ATC.
>> >
>> > So maybe it is switching in and out of the ATC window.
>> >
>> > But I could be wrong on this.
>> >
>> > Now I need to go stress test the latest beta.
>> >
>> > HTH.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
>> > cane paws down any day of the week."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Robert Cezar <mailto:robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:21 PM
>> >
>> > To: bvipilots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Subject: [bvipilots] Re: Final Message Before Defeat...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > REGARDING: could be a way for michelle to tell those of us who are
>> > blind the current state of the ATC window
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes. I can address this issue as soon as I have completed the
>> > development of the next release which has a lot of updates users are
>> anxiously awaiting.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Jody McKinniss
>> > <jlove42010@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > An idea then. Maybe there could be a way for michelle to tell those
>> > of us who are blind the current state of the ATC window. Like she
>> > does with the simulator. I.e., when we issue the command "ATC," or,
>> "toggle ATC,"
>> > Michelle could say "the ATC windows is now open and in view," or, "the
>> > ATC window has now been closed."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Robert Cezar <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > REGARDING: Is there a way for a sighted person to see whether the ATC
>> > window is open or closed?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > REGARDING: when I tell Michelle to get the local weather, doesn't that
>> > open the ATC window?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > No. The ATC window will be wherever it is.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > REGARDING: when the next command, "Charlotte clearance delivery," is
>> > spoken, ATC window should already be open.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Not necessarily.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > REGARDING: Obviously Michelle interacts with the ATC window...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Not exactly. The Microsoft simulator opens and closes the window at
>> > various points in time.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > REGARDING: In other words, how do I get all the sounds from FSX and
>> > IYP to be recorded as well
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I use fraps, which can be purchased at http://www.fraps.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > NOTE: Please understand that SuperATC does not guarantee the state of
>> > the ATC window.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jody McKinniss <jlove42010@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Robert,
>> >
>> > Quick question before I try this: Is there a way for a sighted person
>> > to see whether the ATC window is open or closed? This way I will know
>> > for sure the state of the ATC window when I issue the commands.
>> > Although, now that I think about it, when I tell Michelle to get the
>> > local weather, doesn't that open the ATC window? Therefore, when the next
>> command, "Charlotte clearance
>> > delivery," is spoken, ATC window should already be open. Obviously
>> > Michelle interacts with the ATC window, because after I say, "ready to
>> > copy," she executes something, but instead of hearing clearance
>> > delivery, I hear the weather info again. So if a sighted person can see
>> the active
>> > state of the ATC window, this might be helpful. I am also going to
>> create
>> > a recording of my the next attempt, if I can figure out how you're
>> > accomplishing it. When I record, my voice can be recorded, but I am
>> > not quite sure how to record other sounds from the PC. In other
>> > words, how do I get all the sounds from FSX and IYP to be recorded as
>> well"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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