[brandon's list] Re: Heavy Rain: What we can and can't do

  • From: "Yohandy" <yohandy85@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <brandonslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:04:37 -0500

Misty, you just proved my point. if finding Jason was tough for you, imagine 
for a totally blind person? like you said there are a whole mess of people in 
that mall. we'll just end up walking around endlessly and he'll desperately 
keep searching till we get frustrated and turn off the game or happen to find 
him randomly. in this situation, the game will not continue even if you walk 
around all day. Jason will just patiently wait for you to find him before the 
game triggers the next scene. there are many sections like this where time 
won't pass unless you do what the game demands you do. A walkthrough for this 
game     wouldn't be particularly hard to make, except for writing up those 
walking parts. trials will be pretty tough as well. rest is just basically 
lists of possible options. it'll be time consuming though!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: misty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  To: brandonslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:15 PM
  Subject: [brandon's list] Re: Heavy Rain: What we can and can't do


   Actually I played most of the mall scene "blind" for about the first like 5 
minutes.  I didn't hear the dialogue about the balloon so I was trying to find 
a kid in that sea of people it was kinda freaky.  Then Brandon mentioned the 
balloon and I was like oh! Kid with a balloon kid with a balloon then I found 
that kid that wasn't him! I was like omg!  Now chelle stayed with him somehow 
it was kinda cool.  And yes while if you don't get a button press right it may 
affect the game later on but it does not mean that the blind cannot play this 
game.  Now as I said before to see all the paths the game has to offer you'd 
need a FAQ.  But this isn't the normal situation where you guys will get stuck 
and the game will not progress.  That is generally what you guys call a game 
that's unplayable.  So to answer people's questions about it, yes this game is 
playable.  And I clarified what I meant by it in previous emails.  You CAN play 
the game independantly.. you can get to the end of it independantly.  Can you 
unlock all the options to the game independantly? No but is that better than 
not being able to play it at all?  I'd say yeah but then again I'm not very far 
in the game.  

  I also tend to be a bit crazy when it comes to games LOL!  I've had Brandon 
do some things he thought was impossible for him to do.  Like defeat Krea in 
Knights of The Old Republic 2.  He defeated Bohan for me in Heavenly Sword and 
he's been opening doors for me in Heavy Rain because I just can't seem to get 
it right.  I've even had Brandon play Left 4 Dead and while he didn't advance 
in the level too far, he did not die.  That's something right there! At least I 
thought it was cool.  Also as I said before if I have time to I'd be willing to 
help out with the FAQ but it would take me a long time as my time is limited.  
Probably would release it by level maybe on Brandon's site.  I don't know yet.  
Right now I can't say I can do it.  So I wanna wait and see if someone else 
does it first.  It would be better to have someone release it all at once for 
you than piece by piece like I would have to when time allowed.
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    Subject: [brandon's list] Re: Heavy Rain: What we can and can't do
    From: "Yohandy" <yohandy85@xxxxxxxxx>
    Date: Sat, March 06, 2010 1:49 pm
    To: <brandonslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

     
    Misty,
    Your point is a good one for the most part, but the game won't continue in 
certain situations. for instance the mall scene is one of many where you need 
to walk around to find what you need to find. lol trying to not spoil things is 
hard work. haha. anyway if you just choose to stand there, nothing will happen. 
if it's a button sequence you're dealing with and you press nothing, an 
undesirable result will most likely occur that you'll end up regretting later 
on. if you press a wrong button, it'll have the same consequences. this game 
isn't made in such a way that you can just guess what to do, you have to know 
what you're doing. I appreciate that you're trying to help, but we gotta face 
facts. we'd all love to play this game independently, but unless a good faq 
comes out, I doubt we'll be too successful by simply guessing. I'm just 
grateful I have people here that can help. not everyone does.






      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: misty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      To: brandonslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:07 AM
      Subject: [brandon's list] Re: Heavy Rain: What we can and can't do



       Yep that's what I'm saying.  You guys have to realize that failure with 
this game isn't really failure.  It doesn't stop you from seeing the rest of 
the game.  It continues on even if people die or you make a "wrong" choice.  
There really is no right or wrong in this game.  That's the whole idea behind 
it.  So generally you guys say an unplayable game is one that you get stuck on 
and cannot advance any further due to something you have to see to continue.   
If you can't then you can't continue on in the game and you'll never see the 
end.  With heavy rain you will see an ending regardless of what you do.  You 
will get through the game.
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        Subject: [brandon's list] Re: Heavy Rain: What we can and can't do
        From: Søren_Jensen <slj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        Date: Sat, March 06, 2010 9:19 am
        To: brandonslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

        Okay. So you're saying this game is playable if you have a great 
walkthrough and if you take your time to figure it all out? I don't have any 
people who can help me accept for one of my friends who love games, but he's 
not here all the time. 
        Best regards
        Søren Jensen
        Mail & MSN:
        slj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Website:
        http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/


        Den Mar 5, 2010 kl. 8:00 PM skrev misty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:


          Okay let me clarify here.  This game is not unplayable it's not 
beyond the realm of being playable for you guys.  If you find a FAQ with all 
the button combos they do not change.  As for the timings you would have to 
figure those out on your own as per usual with these things.  It's not like 
you'll be stuck people.  This game plays on regardless of what happens you will 
never be stuck.  You will need help but I don't think it goes beyond anything 
other than finding an FAQ.  If a guy can get help playing legend of zelda which 
is way harder than the stuff you have to do in heavy rain, i would say this 
would be a cakewalk.  I've been helping brandon play parts of heavy rain I've 
even failed at parts in heavy rain such as the drawing of the sketch in the 
first chapter.  Some doors I can't open so I have brandon do it for me.  Come 
on people be open minded and actually try here.  Make an effort.  

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            Subject: [brandon's list] Re: Heavy Rain: What we can and can't do
            From: Michael Breedlove <stirlock@xxxxxxxxx>
            Date: Fri, March 05, 2010 10:26 am
            To: brandonslist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

            This is why I don't buy too many games like this. I don't have 
someone
            around to help me all the time, so there's no point. Plus, I pretty
            much told you that this wasn't very playable on your own. Buyer
            beware.

            On 3/5/10, Orin <orin8722@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
            > Hi all,
            >
            > After I get home from Disney, I really want to play this game, 
and it looks
            > like the only way I'm gonna do that is with myself, since my 
brother got so
            > disinterested quickly.
            >
            > I'd really hate to return it, or not play it at all, but the fact 
is that
            > watching it on Youtube you don't see the entire thing; you see a 
players
            > game and if I were to play it it might be totally different.
            >
            > Also, from what it seems, this game has nice and easy trophies. 
As in, just
            > playing it will net you some trophies. I've watched both the 
GameAnyone
            > walkthrough and a Youtube walkthrough. The outcomes were the 
same, but the
            > characters doing certain things were different.
            >
            > Well, I certainly won't be buying a game again until I'm sure my 
brother
            > will play it. At least a game like this. I think eventually we'd 
be able to
            > do it but here's a problem we run into in the prolog.
            >
            > You can walk around the house nude or at least upstairs and the 
bathroom. In
            > your room, when you're standing at your dresser or whatever to 
get drest, is
            > that when the first button prompts come up? My brother did 
actually manage
            > to get this far for me, and he didn't really tell me anything so 
I was
            > unsure. Where he stopped and never did pick it up again, and 
where it gets
            > good, is when Jason goes to the mall. I did manage to get through 
this
            > scene, however my brother probably would've gotten through it a 
lot quicker.
            > I also got through the fight with Troy, however I didn't get the 
trophy for
            > it.
            >
            > And now I'm at the crime scene. And I'm kinda stuck here.
            >
            > I doubt anyone has any tips on where to go? Hmm. Hopefully I can 
get my
            > brother playing somehow. I'd hate to return a kickass game just 
because I
            > couldn't get help for it.
            >
            >



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