There is a lot in the specification. It would also be great if we could get something usable out soon. I wonder what various people think should be the minimum features in a usable release, aside from the obvious, such as translation and working with generic embossers. This could be out first milestone. Thanks, John -- John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer Abilitiessoft, Inc. http://www.abilitiessoft.com Madison, Wisconsin USA Developing software for people with disabilities