[brailleblaster] Re: 8-dot Font
- From: François Ouellette <braille@xxxxxxx>
- To: brailleblaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:20:25 -0400
John: We need the right tools to do the right job. The development
environment is already free so this is a very small expense compared
to what it would cost to get a full fledged Microsoft Studio! And I
wanted a font editor anyways, I expensed it through my company. Things
will eventually get done, I just needed some time to get the momentum
and be familiar with the whole environment.
F.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:29 PM, John J. Boyer <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Francois,
>
> Actually putting money into your work for BrailleBlaster really shows
> commitment. If the project had more money I would offer to reimburse
> you.
>
> I'm putting specifications for some things that are needed on the list.
> I don't waant you to feel that you are expected to create new classes or
> update existing ones. Just keep doing what you are doing. Hopefully
> someone else will feel moved to jump in, or I can do the work myself,
> although I seem to do better in C than in Java.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:30:23PM -0400, Fran�ois Ouellette wrote:
>> John: there are a few free font editors on sourceforge but they are
>> not worth the trouble. I bought Font Creator Home Edition which is the
>> simpler version of this commercial grade editor with all the features
>> we need. It is only $79 and it includes updates and support. The ttf
>> standard was originally an Apple design, it was later adopted by
>> Microsoft and it is supported on Mac of course, and on most Linux
>> distributions.This editing tool also supports Open Type which a later
>> development of the font standard and follows an ISO specification.
>>
>> Since it is all about dots it should not be too complicated to put
>> together a set of characters. The specds are all on the unicode.org
>> web site. I don't know how a screen reader would see the 8-dot fonts.
>> I guess we will have to experiment a bit.
>>
>> This stuff is a lot more fun than developing computer games!
>>
>> François.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:23 PM, John J. Boyer <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi Francois,
>> >
>> > Thanks for this. Are there free true-type editors? Incidentally, I think
>> > ttf works on Linux and Mac as well.
>> >
>> > How will a dot-pattern font read when viewed with a screenreader?
>> > Unicode Braille can be converted to the text version for a particular
>> > Braille code by using the dotsToChar method in the bindings and the
>> > table for that code.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:53:27PM -0400, Fran�ois Ouellette wrote:
>> >> I could not find any 8-dot braille font in the open world so since
>> >> time is money and since I already spent too much time researching that
>> >> already I might just get a good true type font editor and build one
>> >> for brailleblaster instead.
>> >>
>> >> François.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:00 AM, François Ouellette <braille@xxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > John: the font files are indeed binary, they would need to be copied
>> >> > during
>> >> > installation. I still haven't found a 8-dot Braille font. If anyone has
>> >> > any
>> >> > source, please step in!
>> >> >
>> >> > Speaking of fonts, I haven't used a Linux system for a while, and don't
>> >> > have
>> >> > access to a Mac. Can people who are knowledgeable on those platforms
>> >> > tell me
>> >> > if there is a 'Courier' or 'Courier New' font available as a native
>> >> > font to
>> >> > their respective windowing interface?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> > François.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:29 AM, John J. Boyer
>> >> > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Francois,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is a good idea. However, the fonts can't be in the repository,
>> >> >> since they are binary. The folder can be set up with a README file that
>> >> >> explains this. The fonts will be placed in this directory, just not
>> >> >> added to the repository.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We need an 8-dot Braille font that shows the dot patterns for the
>> >> >> Unicode characters.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> John
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:49:21AM -0400, Fran�ois Ouellette wrote:
>> >> >> > John: we will likely need a folder to put font files with the
>> >> >> > improved
>> >> >> > GUI.
>> >> >> > We need to use braille fonts without having them installed on the
>> >> >> > system,
>> >> >> > and we can also have additional ASCII fonts that would help
>> >> >> > readability
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the Daisy window. Therefore I propose that we we can keep the ttf
>> >> >> > files
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > programData/fonts.
>> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > François
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:35 PM, John J. Boyer
>> >> >> > <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > > Hi Alex,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > That would be fine. Could you send the text files now and the
>> >> >> > > actual
>> >> >> > > installer when we are ready for release?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thanks,
>> >> >> > > John
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 07:22:38AM -0700, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>> >> >> > > > Hi John,
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > As for a Mac installer, I can send you both the binary installer
>> >> >> > > > and
>> >> >> > > > the
>> >> >> > > shell script + package maker files I used to generate it.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Does this sound sufficient?
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Regards,
>> >> >> > > > Alex,
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Alex Jurgensen,
>> >> >> > > > Community Coordinator,
>> >> >> > > > The Camp Bowen Society for the Visually Impaired,
>> >> >> > > >
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>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > On 2012-07-09, at 4:52 AM, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > > [John]
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > >> Before creating the new .iss files, we have to
>> >> >> > > > >> solve the problem of accessing the items on the help menu. As
>> >> >> > > > >> far
>> >> >> > > > >> as I
>> >> >> > > > >> can see, neither spaces not quotation marks are allowed in the
>> >> >> > > > >> file
>> >> >> > > > >> paths. It may be necessary to install BrailleBlaster in a
>> >> >> > > > >> directory
>> >> >> > > > >> other than Program files.
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > No. All sophisticated Windows installers are capable of
>> >> >> > > > > handling
>> >> >> > > > > Windows file- and path names. To get this correct on different
>> >> >> > > > > languages, you should use names like "%programfiles%",
>> >> >> > > > > %programdata%
>> >> >> > > > > etc.
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > > > Lars
>> >> >> > > > >
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --
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>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> John J. Boyer; President, Chief Software Developer
>> >> >> Abilitiessoft, Inc.
>> >> >> http://www.abilitiessoft.com
>> >> >> Madison, Wisconsin USA
>> >> >> Developing software for people with disabilities
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >
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