it won't buy you dessert but this reader thanks you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 2008/04/16 04:12:57 Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: see long synopsis a waste and frustrating > > > Dear Sue, > > It's fun for me to try and cram as much information in 200 characters or > less as possible, especially since Word does the counting for me. As I drum > up ways to substitute shorter synonyms and cast out unnecessary words, I > feel as if I'm writing a poem. Many forms of poetry have arbitrary rules > like lines a and c and lines b and d must rhyme, or there must be two > examples of alliteration per line or the poem must be in iambic pentameter. > I'm no poet, but I enjoy thinking of my short synopses as little poems. > > I'd love helping you sheer your short synopses down to size. I do my best > and try to write clearly, but I'm not even close to being an expert. I > couldn't earn a living writing them. My best hope is that some year a > Booksharian will offer to buy me dessert in appreciation for a dozen or so > synopses I've written. Even then it will be after I've paid for their dinner > in appreciation for the scanning they've done for me, or for their computer > help. > > Always with love, > > Lissi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Mangis" <suemangis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:55 PM > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: see long synopsis a waste and frustrating > > > >I would like to say that on occasion I have had to say see long synopsis > > because, I couldn't write enough in the small synopsis to make any sense. > > I > > only do that when I can't make it short enough to submit a book after > > several attempts when it says it's too long. > > > > Sue Mangis > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Allison Hilliker [mailto:hillikera@xxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:49 PM > > To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: see long synopsis a waste and frustrating > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Bookshare is definitely working to make synopses as high quality as > > possible. I've written about 130 of them in the past week because > > well-represented books are very important to me. > > > > I have a question for you all. Do you mind it if a book has a tiny > > description and then a referral to the long synopsis? It would look > > something like this. > > "Bob goes to the store and gets abducted by aliens. See long synopsis." > > I made that one up of course. I don't hink Bob has been abducted by > > aliens > > recently. <smile>. In any case, is that scenario good by you all? I > > normally try > > to avoid the statement see long synopsis, but once in a while I find a > > plot > > that fights me and resists being put into a little box. So I compromise > > as > > in the example > > above. What do you think? > > > > BTW, while I'm writing, thanks to Bob for his synopsis-writing help. He's > > been incredible! > > > > Best, > > Allison Hilliker: > > Bookshare.org intern. > > allison.h@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:47 AM > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: see long synopsis a waste and frustrating > > > > > >>I want to second this opinion. I hate "see long synopsis" descriptions > >>almost as much as I hate the "none" designation. > >> > >> A synopsis is usually easy to write even if you haven't read the entire > >> book. I've been assisting Allison Hiliker in writing synopses for > >> publisher quality books, and believe me, it's easy, and can be fun. I've > >> found several of those books I'd like to read, not because of the title > >> or > >> author, but because of the short descriptions I find on the internet. > >> > >> The short synopsis is a way to advertise your work. It introduces a > >> reader > >> to the writing skills of the authors, and the patience and care of the > >> submitter and validator. (That's us folks.). Gone are the days when any > >> scanned book was admirable, because books were so valuable. Now, books > >> are > >> valuable for themselves... what they have to say ... what they make us > >> think. And, I, for one, consider it an honor to introduce my fellow > >> readers to these valuable products of our efforts, and I want to do them > >> justice. And, "see long synopsis" doesn't do them justice, in my opinion. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> Bob > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Cc: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:42 PM > >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] see long synopsis a waste and frustrating > >> > >> > >>> Dear Booksharian Friends, > >>> > >>> Those words, "See long synopsis," which appeared on several titles on > >>> Sunday's new books list frustrate and annoy me every time I read them. > >>> From yesterday's list I uploaded 6 books but none of my choices had > >>> those > >>> dreaded words in their descriptions. > >>> > >>> Your valuable volunteer and staff efforts have given me so many > >>> wonderful, usually unexpected, books to read, I don't take time from my > >>> volunteering reading, and real life to look up titles that refer me to > >>> the long synopsis. > >>> > >>> I also don't punish myself either to make a point by failing to read > >>> books I recognize that I like whose authors or titles I already know, > >>> just because the submittor and validator didn't take time to write any > >>> kind of helpful short synopsis for them. But, If I'm not familiar with > >>> the book, I don't bother to track down a long synopsis. If volunteers > >>> can't be bothered to write a helpful short synopsis, I conclude they > >>> don't care much about that book and don't waste unnecessary time finding > >>> out about it because I think it has a good chance of not being carefully > >>> prepared. > >>> > >>> If a volunteer cares about a book, you'd think she or he would want > >>> others to benefit from their work. You'd think they would hope many > >>> readers will select their book and it will be widely read. Why put your > >>> own book in the seconds bin by not writing an inviting and/or > >>> informative > >>> short synopsis for it? The short synopsis is the book's best publicity. > >>> > >>> In other discussions some volunteers have used the excuse that they > >>> can't > >>> write a long synopsis because they haven't read the book. By my personal > >>> work standards That already shows a considerable amount of lack of > >>> caring. However given the volunteer isn't planning to read the book, > >>> this > >>> excuse still doesn't hold up. Why not formulate a short synopsis by > >>> summarizing that famous long synopsis to which they direct potential > >>> readers. It wouldn't take too long to dash out some brief high points > >>> mentioned in that long synopsis. It's only 200 characters or less we're > >>> hoping for. > >>> > >>> I'll always appreciate everyone's work and am not targeting an > >>> individual > >>> since I didn't look up any of these books to identify the volunteers who > >>> write "See long synopsis." I wouldn't dream of trying to manipulate the > >>> volunteer community or the staff to weigh in on this issue or to > >>> institute major changes according to my personal guidelines and desires. > >>> It's my hope that expressing my opinion might result in some books in > >>> the > >>> future being given the more detailed short synopses they deserve. And if > >>> that happens or not, at least I've expressed my feelings. > >>> > >>> I assume all of us have the good of Bookshare at heart. I've written > >>> this > >>> pointed and fervent message from the perspective of both a volunteer and > >>> a reader who loves Bookshare. I'm stating my opinion to encourage > >>> volunteers to try a little harder to attract readers to their books and > >>> to make book browsing more satisfying to me. > >>> > >>> Always with love, > >>> > >>> Lissi > >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to > >>> bookshare-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the Subject line. To get a > >>> list > >>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject > >>> line. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1376 - > >>> Release Date: 4/13/2008 1:45 PM > >>> > >>> > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank Email to > >> bookshare-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the Subject line. 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