Sue, Members won't have to subscribe to the list in order to send a book request to the list. That's why Bookshare will be setting up a form on their website. Filling out the form will send the request to the list. Volunteers who don't subscribe to the list can still read the messages in the archives, so the requests will be available to anyone. While people may disagree with the solution, the only alternative at this time is to get rid of the Wish List altogether. The staff doesn't have the time to maintain it any more. Probably the only reason it lasted 5 years is that as you probably know, it wasn't being updated but a few times a year. Now that they actually tried to keep it up to date, they found that it took more time to maintain it than they had available to spend on it. The reason it takes so much time to maintain is that before every request is added to the list, they have to check to make sure it's not already in the collection or already on the Wish List, and every book added to the collection has to be checked against the list so it can be removed if it's there. While that first step may seem unnecessary, I've been told that people do request books which are already in the collection, and if they can overlook a book in the collection, they can overlook it on the Wish List. Finally, volunteers should give this solution a chance before deciding that it won't work, and afterwards, if they still don't like it, then they need to tell the staff, not the list and have a suggestion for a better solution. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: siss52 [mailto:siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:57 AM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Requested the following books Hi Gerald, Not that it will matter but I strongly disagree with what bookshare is going to do. In order to look up archived messages, which can be a pain if one is searching for a list, wouldn't the volunteers still have to belong to the bksvol list or bookshare-discuss list to access the archives? This just does not make sense to me. I can think of some volunteers who contribute a lot that do not belong to either of these lists. Some people on the list seem to feel they need to answer every message, even if they do not really say anything. Those who choose not to belong to the lists should not be forced to do so. Having said all that, could a list be set up where folks could add their requests themselves? Remember, the Wish List is supposed to be for members as well as volunteers. Regards, Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:58 AM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Requested the following books Sue, As Shelley said, volunteers will have to join the list in order to receive the messages to the list. However, they can go to the Free Lists website and do a search for them if they don't want to subscribe. That will be one of the benefits of generating the message using a form. It will have a consistent subject which can be searched for. Jake and I suggested something like Book Request - title, so you could search for Book Request to find them all in the archives and allow specific requests to be identified by their subject instead of having to read the message to know what book the message is about. Another reason Jake and I suggested the consistent subject was to allow people to filter out the requests if they didn't want to see them. Any message with Book Request at the beginning of the subject could be deleted upon arrival or moved to a folder which would hold nothing but the requests. People really need to join, though, since the only way to inform others that you're scanning the book would be to reply to the message or send another message out to the list. Jake and I also suggested copying the person making the request when the message is generated by the website to allow us to see if someone is sending the same request over and over or if we get a bunch of requests from different people. If that's done, then the volunteer who offers to scan the book can "reply to all" to also inform the person making the request that the book will be scanned. Also, it's my understanding that requests will be going to the bookshare-discuss list, because that's what I heard from Lisa. It's possible that Engineering could end up sending it to either one when they implement the form, though. It depends on whether or not the staff is specific when they specify the change to Engineering or simply say the discussion list like John did when he wrote the lists about the upcoming change. BTW, the reason for the change is because the staff is having trouble finding the time to maintain the list. They discovered when they made the effort recently to keep it up and not let it slide that it takes a lot more time now that Bookshare has more members. I think we'll find that at some point, too, that it will have to be dropped altogether since there will even be too many requests sent to the discussion list for the list to function. People will unsubscribe due to the high volume of messages. That's another reason why I think Lisa had the bookshare-discuss list in mind. It has less message traffic, and subscribers won't have to receive all of the threads on volunteering. This isn't a perfect solution, but it's better than dropping the Wish List altogether now. HTH Gerald -----Original Message----- From: siss52 [mailto:siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:44 PM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Requested the following books Hi Gerald, Not Ashley, but does this make sense to you? If the requests are sent to this list, how will volunteers who are not on the list see the requests? Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Requested the following books Ashley, Yes, you can send a book request to this list. That happens to be what Bookshare is planning to do with their Wish List in the near future. Instead of the staff taking requests for books and adding them to the Wish List, they plan to replace the list with a form which will send requests directly to this list. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: www.hotmail.com [mailto:pookems18@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:50 PM To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Requested the following books I'm new here, and I was wondering if we're permitted to make book requests? Thanks Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Requested the following books > If anyone is working on any of these, or plan to work on these let me > know. > Placed a hold on all of them at my library and like the synopsus on the > catalog. > All Newberry winners or Honorary books > 2007 Medal Winner: > The Higher Power of Lucky by Susan Patron, illus. by Matt Phelan (Simon & > Schuster/Richard Jackson) > > Honor Books: > List of 3 items > . Penny from Heaven by Jennifer L. Holm, (Random House) > . Hattie Big Sky by Kirby Larson (Delacorte Press) > . Rules by Cynthia Lord (Scholastic) > list end > > Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. 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