[bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile
- From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:58:48 -0600
All, this is not an appropriate forum for arguing personal beliefs,
whether you are on one side or an other of a discussion it is immaterial.
Such discussions are best held in a special interest group list.
G.
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Your point is quite legitimate. It is interesting that those who object to
the pot being stirred are at the same time vigorously stirring the pot. It
is as simple as this. If I am looking at a message that I have a response
to then, like anyone else, I respond to it. In the process of making those
responses I am bound to express my opinions. If you don't like those
opinions -- and I am using the universal you here -- then, really,
honestly, think about it, that really is just tough shit. The plain fact
is that there are a lot of people in this world whose opinions you are not
going to like and if you open your mind enough to accept that then I
guarantee that you will be a lot happier. Opening your mind may run
counter to what you have been taught in church, but churches, despite what
they might say, are in the business of controlling you, not ensuring your
personal happiness. I will also point out that even though I have never
been a believer myself I have known any number of atheists who were former
religionists and their stories are very similar. The story is always one
of accumulating doubts and discomfort with their upbringing and that is
usually rather sad, but the part where they put their upbringing behind
them and finally break with religion is an entirely different matter. They
always describe it as the most liberating experience in their lives and
one of the most liberating parts is that they can finally disagree with
others without feeling a self destructive gnawing hatred inside. It still
remains, though, that if you have not had that liberating experience and
it upsets you so much to hear an opinion that is different from your own
you can minimize exposure to those opinions by not denigrating them and
thereby provoking the person with the different opinion to respond to you.
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I'mnew to thislist but it seems to me that if people don't react the pot
in
effect hasn't been stired. And, this really doesn't help any of us who
need
help or want to discuss Bookshare right?
-Diane
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From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:18 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The Troll - smile
> It is interesting, isn't it? Most discussion lists get a person who
> trolls, sooner or later. Usually the list manager puts a troll on
> moderate so that they don't get the opportunity to constantly stir up
the
> pot. Since Bookshare hasn't ever assigned an active list manager to
this
> list, as far as I've ever seen, the only way left for the list members
to
> handle a troll is to ignore the posts made by that individual every time
> they begin trolling. smile.
>
> Judy s.
>
> Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
>> Thanks, Judy. That's really interesting. I'd never
>> heard that term before.
>> smile
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> --- "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy, Sharon and Patti, Roger is trolling every
>>> time someone posts regarding Christianity, and has done so since
>>> he came on the list.
>>>
>>> If you're not familiar with the term "troll" or
>>> "internet troll," here's a definition from Wikipedia:
>>>
>>> "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet
>>> slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or
>>> off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online
>>> discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking
>>> other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt
>>> normal on-topic discussion"
>>>
>>> The best way to handle trolling (again I'll quote
>>> from Wikipedia, as they put it well) is simple: "Do not feed the
>>> troll." You'll find that abbreviated as "D-N-F-T" or "D-F-T-T" in
>>> Internet slang.
>>>
>>> Put simply: you'll drive yourself crazy by getting
>>> sucked into a discussion with someone who is trolling. Consider
>>> just ignoring a troll's posts when he or she is trolling. Provoking a
>>> response is what a troll enjoys. Roger himself has posted
>>> here that he loves to stir things up just for the fun he gets out
>>> of it. grin.
>>>
>>> Judy s.
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