[bookshare-discuss] Re: (No Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:31:22 -0600

  • From: "Mike Arrigo" <n0oxy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

I would definitely vote for quality. A better quality book is usually worth
the wait.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:39 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss]


> Hi, David,
>
> The controversy about care in validating vs speed, is
> ongoing. To some people, speed in getting the book
> into the collection is paramount; to others of us,
> quality is the most important.
>
> I have asked some of your questions before. Because I
> am sighted, I can see the book, and I try to duplicate
> what I see as much as possible. I don't know about
> conversion to Daisy, but I have been told, when I
> asked here, that fonts larger than 36 can't be read
> easily, whether it's by Daisy or Braille I don't
> remember; so I never enlarge anything more than that.
>
> Most people, when I asked, said that they prefer that
> there be spaces between paragraphs, but that isn't
> always possible, especially when there's a lot of
> dialogue on the page, so  sometimes I space and
> sometimes I just indent, depending.
>
> I've also been told that fancy fonts aren't easily
> read. The only one I had on this computer to try to
> imitate some of the fancier fonts was Apple Chancery,
> but now I don't do anything more than bold or italics,
> smaller font. If a book is in different fonts, like
> Steven King's Misery or a couple of others I did, I
> use different fonts and sizes.
>
> I also try to make things easier for the reader in
> some ways. For example. I always, or almost always,
> put the page number in the left corner, top or bottom
> depending on where it is in the book, and never in the
> middle of the page, as was in a book I did recently
> (middle of the page in the margin) or on the
> right-hand side. It probably wouldn't make a
> difference -- I never asked.  I do put Chapter titles
> in the middle, when that's where they appear, and
> space four line spaces when that's in the book, but I
> must admit I've wondered if that's a good thing. Maybe
> I shouldn't do that.
>
> Other than that, I'm one of those people who reads
> carefully and makes changes as I go along. Then I do a
> spell-check and a page number check. I've found that
> sometimes i get so involved in the book I've numbered
> twice, or forgotten to  put in a page break, and it's
> surprising the spelling/scanning errors I didn't
> catch. Sometimes the brain sees that it wants to see
> and what should be there, not what is. An Excellent
> rating allows for some errors, so that last spell
> check probably isn't necessary, but I do it anyway.
>
> You know what the minimum requirements are. How much
> more you want to do is up to do. I'm looking forward
> to the replies you get about Daisy. Maybe they will
> cause me to do some things differently.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
> --- Captain357 <Captain357@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> >   Bookshare's information on page format editing is
> > pretty clear in the
> > validation instructions sent to new volunteers: do
> > what you can and details
> > some specifics.  I was looking for additional
> > information on this however.
> > Now, anyone who has done scanning knows that
> > typically the finished scan can
> > have spaces between letters on the title page, blank
> > lines between lines of
> > text, etc, and is most likely not a mirror image of
> > the book.  That has been
> > my experience anyway.  From my days when I could
> > see, I remember how the
> > average book is structured and formatted, and that
> > is not how many of my
> > scans turn out.  Even when viewing in "exact view,"
> > (with "keep exact view"
> > set in scanning preferences and all options set to
> > retain as much data as
> > possible) this still tends to be the case.  Okay,
> > and let's assume that you
> > do get a perfect duplicate scan of the book, the
> > publishers in making things
> > look their best (larger fonts and erratic spacing in
> > titles and headers) are
> > problems for screen readers and I would think,
> > problematic in the transition
> > from RTF to daisy.  That said, does anyone know what
> > the ideal balance
> > between efficiency, speed of validating and quality,
> > performance of the
> > daisy file would be?  In other words, how much can
> > the automated RTF to
> > daisy program Bookshare uses to process daisy files,
> > compile and compensate
> > formatting errors mentioned above into a great
> > finished Book?  Should we be
> > striving in validation to keep spaces between
> > sentences and letters to a
> > minimal?  Should paragraphs be indented?  Should we
> > rework fancy visual
> > formats to a simpler, uniform style?  Then of
> > course, those of us who are
> > blind can't look at the book to see how formatting
> > appears so there is
> > guessing and assumption involved.  I've mentioned
> > just a few specific
> > questions here to get my point across and hopefully
> > I've done that.  Any
> > information that will give me a better idea of what
> > is best and suggestions
> > for doing so is greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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