[bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations
- From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:48:39 -0500
If you don't have the time, wait until you do, and that will solve the problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Donahue
To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:42 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations
Hello Bob and listers,
If you have the time to do that that's great.
Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:14 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations
Hi Cindy,
I agree with all that you say with one exception.
I would prefer that the books from publishers get into the collection as
soon as is possible. If there is no synopsis, and I like the title or the
author then I can do a google search and usually find some type of review of
the book to determine whether or not I want to read it.
Thanks.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Rosenthal" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 2:03 AM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations
> As I said in my post,the short synopsis is restricted
> to 250 *characters.* The synopses to which you refer,
> usually on the cover flap or the back cover of a book,
> are more than that and have to be edited. Plus, some
> books, especially paperbacks, and possibly the ebooks
> donatged by the publishers--I have no idea about
> them--have no such synopses. (the word is spelled s y
> n o p s i s in the singular and s y n o p s e s in the
> plural form, btw. smile.)
>
> The publishers, as I think Bob said, don't so anything
> but send the books, I gather in ebook form, to
> bookshare. Designated personel prepare them for
> bookshare form. My solution to avoid upsetting people
> would be not to add them to the collection until the
> synopses are added, and I think I suggested this to
> Carrie to be passed on, but I don't remember. The PQ
> books added yesterday or the day before did have short
> synopses.
>
> There is no excuse for volunteer-processed books not
> having short synopses, and I think they all do now.
> There is a place on the submission form for both long
> and short synopses, and people have been told not to
> write in the short synopses space "See long synopsis."
> Upon occasion I've gone to the long synopsis and
> edited it to fit the short synopsis and added it to my
> list that I mail out (I don't think you receive it but
> if you want to, let me know. Since only 6 books were
> added today (Tuesday) I'll post the list at the end of
> this and you can see how it differs from the Browse
> New Books list, from which it's taken ). On one
> occasion all I had to do was take the first couple of
> lines; I don't know why neither the scanner nor the
> validator didn't do that.
>
> Cindy Ro
>
> 6 English-Language books, added to the collection Dec.
> 9
> All Books are downloadable in BRF and Daisy unless
> otherwise stated; May include (or not) Adult-rated
> books. THIS LIST DOES NOT INCLUDE books only available
> to public K-12 schools and organizations in the United
> States for use with students with an IEP (NIMAC)
>
> Abbreviations Used: LJ= Library Journal;' SLJ=School
> Library Journal; PW=Publishers' Weekly; PD=Product
> Details--from Publisher; A=Amazon; BN=Barnes&Noble;
> K=Kirkus; BL = Booklist; CL=Children's Literature;
> CM=Child's Magazine; KL (KLIATT=bimonthly magazine,
> publishes reviews of paperback books, hardcover
> fiction for adolescents, audiobooks, and educational
> software recommended for libraries and classrooms
> serving young adults V (VOYA)
>
> ***My Dearest Friend: Letters of Abigail and John
> Adams by Margaret A. Hogan (editor), C. James Taylor
> (editor)
> Quality: Excellent, almost no errors.
> Nonfiction
> Synopsis: Letters that were sent by Abigail and John
> Adams during their courtship, marriage (separation
> when John Adams was in Europe) and when they were
> apart in the States. Touching history brought into
> life.
> Copyright Date: 2007
>
> ***The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family by
> Annette Gordon-Reed
> Quality: Excellent, almost no errors.
> Nonfiction
> Synopsis: Not only a biography of Sally Hemings, who
> bore 7 children by Thomas Jefferson, this book details
> the extraordinary lives of her ancestors and
> descendants also. Winner of the National Book award.
> Copyright Date: 2008
>
> ***A Country Christmas by Bonnie Lou Risby
> Quality: Excellent, almost no errors.
> Chlildrens/adult fiction
> Synopsis: It's such a hard year in the Ozarks even
> Santa's broke. A tornado, illness, and being teased
> and cheated can't keep Francy and her large family
> down. They use what they have in surprising ways to
> make a beautiful Christmas. Ages 6-9 and all ages.
> Copyright Date: 1996
>
> ***Mindhunter: Inside the FBI's Elite Serial Crime
> Unit by John Douglas, Mark Olshaker
> Quality: Excellent, almost no errors.
> Nonfiction
> Synopsis: True stories of how some of the most
> notorious serial killers and rapist were tracked down.
> Learn how they think by understanding the way they
> think and reason.
> Copyright Date: 1995
>
> ***The Promise by Chaim Potok
> Quality: Excellent, almost no errors.
> Fiction
> Synopsis: The Promise is the sequel to and continues
> the story begun in The Chosen
> Copyright Date: 1969
>
> ***Halo: The Cole Protocol by Tobias S. Buckell
> Quality: Excellent, almost no errors.
> Science fiction
> Synopsis: In the first desperate days of the
> Human-Covenant War, the UNSC enacted the Cole Protocol
> to safeguard Earth and its inner colonies from
> discovery by a merciless alien foe.
> Copyright Date: 2008
>
> ***WISH LIST (CALLED REQUESTED ADDITIONS TO THE
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>
> A LIST OF BOOKS CURRENTLY BEING SCANNED IS AVAILABLE
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>
>
>
> --- Peter Donahue <pdonahue1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hello Cindy and listers,
>>
>> How many books have you read that contain a
>> scinopsis or a brief
>> annotation at the beginning. It's just a matter of a
>> volunteer or publisher
>> copying and pasting this information in to the
>> validate along with the other
>> data and it's done!! This whole business about this
>> requirement being too
>> time-consuming is nothing but first-class poppy cock
>> if you asked me! And
>> that also goes for Braille titles not being
>> proofread before they're posted.
>> My wife Mary over heard me writing this note and
>> said, "Amen!!" That's to be
>> expected from her since she's a Braille proofreader
>> at the Education Service
>> Center Region Twenty in San Antonio. If
>> Bookshare.org wants someone to
>> assist with proofreading their Braille titles they
>> need only give Mary's
>> boss a call. All the best.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Rosenthal" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:40 AM
>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations
>>
>>
>> The PQ books have been put on the list by bookshare
>> staff--certain ones are assigned to this--and at a
>> later time they will fill in the synopses. They
>> aren't
>> validated by anyone.
>>
>> For a while Mayrie and I were suppling short
>> synopses
>> but it is very time-consuming--not as easy as it
>> sounds, Peter, because of the restriction of 250
>> characters. I was very relieved to learn that they
>> would be supplied later and that I needn't bother
>> doing them.
>>
>> I think I did write and suggest that maybe it would
>> be
>> better not to post them until the synopses were
>> ready--but maybe I just thought about it. I did
>> notice, though, that the PQ books added to the
>> collection today all had short synopses, though not
>> perfect ones--not really synopses but something that
>> gave one an idea of what the book was about.
>>
>> Sometimes, when I know the book or have read about
>> it,
>> if I see a synopsis that is way off the mark, I've
>> rewritten it for my list and notified Carrie in case
>> they want to take what I wrote.
>>
>> As Bob said, anyone who had time can write one and
>> send it to Allison to be added--we aren't allowed to
>> just take what's posted on B&N or Amazon because
>> that
>> is copyrighted, but we can use what is on the back
>> cover if it is up there.
>>
>> Cindy Ro
>>
>>
>>
>> The problem
>> --- "Shelley L. Rhodes" <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Peter and Bonnie and All.
>> >
>> > The fact of the matter is that no one writes the
>> > synopsis' for the publisher
>> > quality books. For a while volunteers were
>> mailing
>> > synopsis's to Alice
>> > hilliger and she was adding them, I believe she is
>> > still doing this. So if
>> > you see a book, do some research figure out what
>> it
>> > is, write a short and
>> > long synopsis and send it to Bookshare they will
>> add
>> > it to the database so
>> > the book has one.
>> >
>> > I know right now I don't have the time or energy
>> to
>> > devote to that project
>> > with the other projects I am doing. have way to
>> > much on my plate as it
>> > stands, and can't do that too.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
>> > And Guinevere: Golden Lady Guide Dog
>> > guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx
>> > Guide Dogs for the Blind
>> > Alumni Association
>> > www.guidedogs.com
>> >
>> > Though force can protect in emergency, only
>> justice,
>> > fairness, consideration
>> > and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn
>> of
>> > eternal peace. -Dwight
>> > D. Eisenhower, U.S. general and 34th president
>> > (1890-1969)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:37 PM
>> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Missing Annotations
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hello everyone,
>> > >
>> > > For some time I have been greatly troubled by
>> > the number of
>> > > publisher-quality titles posted to the "Browse
>> New
>> > Books" area of the site
>> > > with missing annotations or book summaries. Its
>> > this brief scinopsis that
>> > > often determines whether I feel a book is worth
>> a
>> > read or not. I've had
>> > > previous communications with the folks at
>> Benetek
>> > concerning this matter
>> > > and
>> > > received a less than satisfactory answer. This
>> > problem should be caught
>> > > during the validation process and corrected
>> before
>> > a book is posted for
>> > > membership access. For God sakes it doesn't take
>> a
>> > week to extract a book
>> > > annotation and paste it in to the appropriate
>> > validation field. If I'm
>> > > going
>> > > to pay a subscription to this service I expect
>> to
>> > have access that will
>> > > enable me to choose whether to download and read
>> a
>> > particular book or not
>> > > and I'm sure there are others of you who feel
>> the
>> > same way.
>> > >
>> > > When asked what particular titles were
>> missing
>> > a scinopsis I explained
>> > > that there are way too many for me to list. For
>> a
>> > while an effort was made
>> > > to include book annotations in the listings, but
>> > the number of titles
>> > > which
>> > > don't include them is on the rise again
>> including
>> > a missing scinopsis to a
>> > > book entitled, "Raising Hell" by Ronin Ro.
>> > >
>> > > I would again urge the folks at Benetech to
>> > remedy this problem and
>> > > would appreciate the battle joined to ensure
>> that
>> > this solution is put in
>> > > place. It shouldn't be too much to ask a book
>> > publisher to include an
>> > > annotation when they send files for inclusion in
>> > the collection. Now I'm
>> > > done ranting. Here's hoping 2009 will bring with
>> > it a solution to this
>> > > problem and more ways for us to find information
>> > about particular titles
>> > > quickly and easily.
>> > >
>> > > Peter Donahue
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "Given a chance to dream it can be done
>> > > The promise of tomorrow is real.
>> > > Children of Spaceship Earth the future belongs
>> to
>> > us all."
>> > > Flying for Me,
>> > > John Denver
>> > >
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