[bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations

  • From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:40:50 -0500

Not to mention, books that are allowed to be shared Globally, which the books that volunteers can unless under the right publishers are not.
So being nice to the publishers is a good and wise thing. Especially as we build an international completely legal and accessible library. 


Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
And Guinevere: Golden Lady Guide Dog
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Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace. -Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. general and 34th president (1890-1969)
----- Original Message ----- From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 10:24 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations
The problem isn't really solved. The publisher quality books don't go through the usual validation process, and are typically provided by the publishers in lots, not individually. The publishers aren't the ones eager to get their books on Bookshare, but rather it's Bookshare that is interested in getting a product up there with no scanning errors. 

Dave

At 08:24 PM 12/9/2008, you wrote:

Good evening everyone,
The vast majority of books I've seen with missing annotations are those 
from publishers. Come on we should expect better than that for God sakes!!
Submission of a book annotation should be a part of the validation process. It's just a matter of creating a "Scinopsis" field volunteers and publishers 
must fill out. If the field is made to be a required field the book won't
validate unless this field contains the annotation data. Problem solved!

    At the 2008 Convention of the National Federation of the Blind a
resolution was adopted to urge Bookshare.org to proofread its Braille files 
to ensure that Braille versions are translated and formatted properly.
Remember that there are folks who are just learning Braille particularly
young children who access Bookshare.org books. This is especially true of
NIMAC books. If blind children and adults are to be Braille literate and
proficient they must have quality Braille to read that is written and
formatted properly. The way to achieve this is to proofread the Braille
versions of books prior to their being posted to the Web site for member
access.

    I bring this up because we heard the same tired old stuff about
proofreading Braille titles would be too time-consuming, and that it wasn't 
that important. We were also told to "Be patient, sit and wait." Alison
addressed the convention concerning the resolution and side-stepped the
issue going on and on about the enormous amount of Braille titles now in the 
Bookshare.org collection, etc. Do we need to pass a similar resolution to
urge that Bookshare.org ensure that titles available on their Web site
include annotations or will the problem be addressed early next year to
reduce if not eliminate completely the number of new titles both that those 
produced by volunteers, or submitted by publishers appear without such
annotations. Here's hoping this matter will be remedied next year.

Peter Donahue



 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:52 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations


Actually, I've seen books sent in by publishers go up on the site with no
synopsis, then later it will appear with a synopsis.

Therefore, some patience might be in order here.

However, as Shelley says, if you feel like it, you can write your own
synopses and send it to Allison Hiliker. hillikera@xxxxxxxxxx

Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:02 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations


> Hello Shelley and listers,
>
>    Publishers won't submit the scinopsis unless Bookshare.org requires
> them
> to do so. One need not be an Einstein to figure that out. There's the > fix 
> for this problem. Now let's see if they implement it in the future.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:19 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Missing Annotations
>
>
> Hi Peter and Bonnie and All.
>
> The fact of the matter is that no one writes the synopsis' for the
> publisher
> quality books.  For a while volunteers were mailing synopsis's to Alice
> hilliger and she was adding them, I believe she is still doing this. > So 
> if
> you see a book, do some research figure out what it is, write a short > and > long synopsis and send it to Bookshare they will add it to the database > so 
> the book has one.
>
> I know right now I don't have the time or energy to devote to that > project 
> with the other projects I am doing.  have way to much on my plate as it
> stands, and can't do that too.
>
>
>
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes, M.A., VRT
> And Guinevere: Golden Lady Guide Dog
> guidinggolden@xxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs for the Blind
> Alumni Association
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness,
> consideration
> and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal > peace. -Dwight 
> D. Eisenhower, U.S. general and 34th president (1890-1969)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:37 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Missing Annotations
>
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>    For some time I have been greatly troubled by the number of
>> publisher-quality titles posted to the "Browse New Books" area of the
>> site
>> with missing annotations or book summaries. Its this brief scinopsis >> that >> often determines whether I feel a book is worth a read or not. I've >> had >> previous communications with the folks at Benetek concerning this >> matter 
>> and
>> received a less than satisfactory answer. This problem should be >> caught >> during the validation process and corrected before a book is posted >> for >> membership access. For God sakes it doesn't take a week to extract a >> book 
>> annotation and paste it in to the appropriate validation field. If I'm
>> going
>> to pay a subscription to this service I expect to have access that >> will >> enable me to choose whether to download and read a particular book or >> not 
>> and I'm sure there are others of you who feel the same way.
>>
>> When asked what particular titles were missing a scinopsis I >> explained 
>> that there are way too many for me to list. For a while an effort was
>> made
>> to include book annotations in the listings, but the number of titles
>> which
>> don't include them is on the rise again including a missing scinopsis >> to 
>> a
>> book entitled, "Raising Hell" by Ronin Ro.
>>
>>    I would again urge the folks at Benetech to remedy this problem and
>> would appreciate the battle joined to ensure that this solution is put >> in 
>> place. It shouldn't be too much to ask a book publisher to include an
>> annotation when they send files for inclusion in the collection. Now >> I'm 
>> done ranting. Here's hoping 2009 will bring with it a solution to this
>> problem and more ways for us to find information about particular >> titles 
>> quickly and easily.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>> "Given a chance to dream it can be done
>> The promise of tomorrow is real.
>> Children of Spaceship Earth the future belongs to us all."
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>> John Denver
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