[bookshare-discuss] Re: Miranda Borka To Lead Christian Literature Discus...

  • From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:54:33 -0600

People,  please move this discussion off the list. I'll be delighted of 
arguing the fine merits and problems of Western   rationalism vs Faith 
under a different roof.

G.

Guido Dante Corona
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Even science depends to some extent on faith: faith that the universe is 
orderly, and acts under a set of rules.
 
Just because it is orderly today doesn't mean it will be orderly tomorrow.
 
Bob
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From: A. J. Nolte 
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There's nothing "scientific" about Marxism.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx 
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Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:30 PM
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Now that really is ridiculous. Religion relies on faith. Those who are 
religious fully admit that. Faith is the act of believing a given 
proposition or set of propositions without any regard to evidence or 
reason. That is, if you have faith that you can walk on air and you step 
off a cliff you will insist as you are falling to your death that you are 
walking on air. Everything about religion demands an acceptance of its 
precepts without question or investigation. On the other hand, I stand for 
a scientific view of the world, one in which truth is determined by 
looking at the universe around us and experimenting, that is, 
investigating. Now, somehow I am accused of being threatened by ideas that 
I will never investigate? The absurdity of that position is incredible. It 
is the unquestioning proud-to-be-ignorant attitude of religionists that I 
am in opposition to. I am the one who calls for religionists to stop being 
threatened by new ideas and start investigating.

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It's because he's threatened by ideas he probably will never investigate. 

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From: 
Cindy Rosenthal 

To: 
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:24 PM

Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Miranda Borka To Lead Christian 
Literature Discussion...

I agree with Sharon. Clearly the announcement wasn't
made for people like you and me, not interested, so
why read it and take notice of it? Do you comment on
the other literature discussion groups. If I had read
it, as you did, and noticed Miranda's comment, I would
have understood it to mean "others like ourselves."
She probably saw no need to add those last two words
because she assumed that only those interested in
discussion Christian literature would read the notice.
I'm quite certain that I understand what she means by
content that might be embarrassing to them, too,
without her having to state it.

Sharon's correct, though, that it really isn't
necessary to comment on everything that's posted here,
especially if it doesn't interest you.

Cindy
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> You just have to make a comment each time don't you?
> Sharon
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>   Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:44 PM
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>   Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Miranda Borka To
> Lead Christian
> Literature Discussion...
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> 
>   When describing the purpose of the new Christian
> literature discussion
> group
>   being sponsored by the Accessible World, Miranda
> Borka, the group's
>   facilitator, commented, "It is designed to provide
> information about books
>   you can share with others without being
> embarrassed by the content, and
>   books you yourself just can't put down!
> 
> 
>   I am pretty sure that if I shared that kind of
> content with anyone I would
> be embarrassed.
> 
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