[bookshare-discuss] Re: Mailing in books for scanning
- From: "Julie Morales" <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:23:55 -0800
Hi, Patti. It's all a learning process. You'll get there, with practice. I
haven't submitted that many books myself and feel pretty inadequate
sometimes, but you learn with each one, and that's the important thing. Take
care.
Julie Morales
"This book (the Bible) will keep you from sin or sin will keep you from this
book." D.L. Moody
"To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has
forgiven the inexcusable in you." C.S. Lewis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patti Johnson" <razz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:14 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Mailing in books for scanning
Thanks for the information, Shelly. I only ask because I feel so
inadequate as a scanner, that I wonder if I want to submit, which I do,
whether it would be better to let somebody else scan! Just reflecting.
Patti
Me and my guide dog;
He does a good job,
He keeps me safe
So life is just great
For me and my guide dog.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:46 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Mailing in books for scanning
> hi Patty,
>
> You can mail in books to be scanned at the Bookshare office.
>
> Just make sure they are attention the "volunteering department" or Marissa
> Mikka"
>
> The address escapes me, but I know it can be found on the home page under
> "Contact us"
>
> I will send out a warning, they can't send the books back. In fact they
> well, rip off the bindings in the scanning process. The books are
> readable
> after that, but...
>
> They donate them.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> Graduate Advisory Council
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> The vision must be followed by the venture. It is not enough to
> stare up the steps - we must step up the stairs.
>
> -- Vance Havner
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patti Johnson" <razz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:44 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: how to help bookshare when you cannot
> actually scan
>
>
> I've heard this mentioned before, so wanted to clarify; can some one
> actually send in a book for scanning? If so how?
> Patti
>
> Me and my guide dog;
> He does a good job,
> He keeps me safe
> So life is just great
> For me and my guide dog.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tina Birnenbaum" <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 12:51 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] how to help bookshare when you cannot
> actually
> scan
>
>
>> Hi. I don't have the ability to scan books in right now so am sending
>> books
>> in for scanning. I just wanted to know for people in my situation, are
>> there
>> ways we can contribute to preparing books for downloading? I have a
>> braille
>> note so, are there people who just proofread and let someone else do the
>> scanning? I am just trying to think of a way in addition to just sending
>> in
>> books that I would be able to help with out having a good scanner.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:59 PM
>> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice needed
>>
>>
>>> For some reason, when I started with bookshare, I
>>> found that Ominpage didn't work that well; I think it
>>> was because we had an old scanner and Ominpage and it
>>> was too slow. But we bought an Epson and it works
>>> nicely and puts in page breaks where they belong. I
>>> think it has ABBYY Fine Reader. It wasn't that
>>> expensive, either.
>>>
>>> As for scoring, since I don't have Kurzweil I rate the
>>> books myself. I am one of the people who read the
>>> books and make corrections as I go along; then I run a
>>> spell-check. By the time I'm finished I know the book
>>> rating should be Excellent, which does allow for some
>>> errors. I think if you just run a spell-check and make
>>> the corrections, and check the pagination by scrolling
>>> through the book or using page down or using Find, you
>>> should feel comfortable rating the book at least
>>> good,if not Excellent.
>>>
>>> As far as the pagination of books you scan go, if you
>>> submit them with the comment in the comment section
>>> that you're not sure about the pagination and the
>>> validator should put in page breaks, that should be
>>> o.k. Some books require a sighted validator and people
>>> put that in the Comments section, too.
>>>
>>> Don't give up. We need all the help we can get.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> -- "L. Sammons" <lsammons@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks sue.
>>> >
>>> > That clarifies the situation. I appreciate the
>>> > feedback, but I guess this
>>> > ends my scanning career for a while. Maybe forever,
>>> > unless I can figure out
>>> > how to get the page breaks into the material I
>>> > scanned with OmniPage. And I
>>> > have no intention of buying Kurzweil or open book,
>>> > as they are quite
>>> > expensive and OmniPage works good for everything
>>> > else I do. It just seems
>>> > like it won't handle books. Also I have avoided
>>> > trying validation's,
>>> > because I have no software which will score the text
>>> > like Kurzweil does.
>>> > But I may try a validation or two, to see if I can
>>> > make that work.
>>> >
>>> > I may try contacting technical support at Omni page
>>> > and see if there are
>>> > some options I can use when scanning books that I
>>> > don't know about.
>>> > Otherwise, I guess I'm about out of luck there. I
>>> > know OmniPage does a
>>> > beautiful job of character recognition, but it isn't
>>> > much good if you can't
>>> > formatted properly after you've scanned. I do think
>>> > there is a good chance
>>> > the problem is as much with dear old Microsoft as
>>> > with OmniPage. But that's
>>> > a whole different story.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again.
>>> >
>>> > Sam Sammons
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 3:55 PM
>>> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice
>>> > needed
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Sam,
>>> > >
>>> > > I validated your Third Edition and wrote a note
>>> > saying it did not have
>>> > > page
>>> > > breaks. I wrote an e-mail message to Marissa
>>> > telling her it was an
>>> > > excellent scan except for that and asked that she
>>> > return it to me if she
>>> > > wanted page breaks. She replied that she might
>>> > return it to the
>>> > > submitter.
>>> > >
>>> > > The next thing I saw was the Fourth Edition, and I
>>> > validated it as well..
>>> > > There had been a note asking the validator to
>>> > confirm or deny that the
>>> > > book
>>> > > had page breaks..
>>> > >
>>> > > Having said all that, I was talking about the
>>> > fourth edition which
>>> > > evidently
>>> > > someone else had scanned. But please do not be
>>> > discouraged because your
>>> > > scan was excellent, and if you knew me you would
>>> > know I speak the truth.
>>> > > Does that tell us anything about the importance of
>>> > page breaks?
>>> > > <<<<smile>
>>> > >
>>> > > Sue S.
>>> > >
>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > From: "L. Sammons" <lsammons@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:23 PM
>>> > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice
>>> > needed
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Hello Sue.
>>> > >
>>> > > Awhile back I scanned and submitted Alcoholics
>>> > Anonymous. I don't have
>>> > > Kurzweil or open book, my OCR software is Omni
>>> > Page Reader. I scanned one
>>> > > book previously, no man is an island, and it had
>>> > been accepted, but did
>>> > > not
>>> > > have page breaks. When I scanned, Alcoholics
>>> > Anonymous, I determined to
>>> > > keep the page breaks. Alcoholics Anonymous is a
>>> > fairly long book and in
>>> > > the
>>> > > end I had fourr RTF files. All in pretty good
>>> > shape. But when I tried to
>>> > > combine them. I ran into trouble. When I finally
>>> > got them all together,
>>> > > I
>>> > > just submitted them to bookshare. Then I started
>>> > reading the completed
>>> > > file
>>> > > and found that it had gotten really messed up in
>>> > the process. I returned
>>> > > to
>>> > > bookshare and tried to get it back, so I could
>>> > correct it myself, but
>>> > > somebody had already taken it. So I just decided
>>> > to let it ride.
>>> > >
>>> > > I hadn't heard anything more about it till today
>>> > when you said you had
>>> > > validated the book. I downloaded it and unpacked
>>> > it. Both the HTML and
>>> > > the
>>> > > Daisy, file appears to be in pretty good order.
>>> > When I checked the
>>> > > preface.
>>> > > I've found that the book in bookshare is the
>>> > fourth edition. I scanned
>>> > > the
>>> > > third edition. It could be the RTF file you found
>>> > that was all messed up
>>> > > was the one I submitted that somebody got tired of
>>> > messing with and put
>>> > > back
>>> > > on the site, could you check and see if what you
>>> > have is the third
>>> > > edition.
>>> > > I would like to know what happened to my
>>> > submission.
>>> > >
>>> > > I have had so much trouble and wasted so much time
>>> > getting my scans into
>>> > > an
>>> > > acceptable RTF format that I do not intend to
>>> > submit any more books until
>>> > > I
>>> > > get things figured out. And I don't know if I'll
>>> > ever be able to do that.
>>> > > The scans are okay, by the time I get them into
>>> > Microsoft Word and try to
>>> > > combine them they get all fouled up. I dom't know
>>> > what I'm going to do,
>>> > > but
>>> > > I would like to know if the bad RTF file that you
>>> > have is the one I
>>> > > submitted. ----
>>> > >
>>> > > Sam Sammons
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
>>> > > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:58 AM
>>> > > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation advice
>>> > needed
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I validated Alcoholics Annonymous and it had page
>>> > breaks, but I got it
>>> > >> down
>>> > >> to check after it got on the list, the BRF copy,
>>> > and it had all kinds of
>>> > >> errors like that less than, greater than, stuff
>>> > like that. It was a
>>> > >> mess.
>>> > >> It must have been the translator. I didn't get
>>> > the Daisy copy.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Sue S.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> > >> From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
>>> > >> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:49 AM
>>> > >> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Validation
>>> > advice needed
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Hi Mary,
>>> > >> I'm sure you're not doing anything wrong. There
>>> > were a few rtf files
>>> > >> which
>>> > >> actually didn't have page breaks. Kurzweil is
>>> > really very good at showing
>>> > >> page breaks, so if you're not seeing them, they
>>> > probably aren't there. Do
>>> > >> you happen to have MSWORD? If you do, try opening
>>> > the file in there and
>>> > >> see
>>> > >> if the page breaks coincide with the page
>>> > headers. If not, then there
>>> > >> aren't
>>> > >> page breaks. If you want to you could enter them,
>>> > or if not you could
>>> > >> release the book. If you decide to release, it
>>> > might be nice to let the
>>> > >> list
>>> > >> know what the book was in case someone else wants
>>> > to take on the job. As
>>> > >> for
>>> > >> scanning, if you have the equipment you're more
>>> > than welcome to do both
>>> > >> scanning and validating.
>>> > >> Kellie
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