[bookshare-discuss] Editing notes in the long synopsis
- From: Cindy Rosenthal <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:49:21 -0800 (PST)
Roger,
I proofread the book. I always put notes in the long
synopsis about things such as dialect; English rather
than U.S. spelling and punctuation; violence,
obscenity, sex, profanity if the books contains it and
it's not rated adult. In the case of Before the Dawn,
I felt that it was necessary to indicate that the
symbols and what appear as junk is not junk but is
part of the print book. If there were a place for
comments, I would not have to put these things in the
long synopsis, but when I proofread a book I feel it
is necessary to indicate those things I mentioned
plus, if there is poor grammar or punctuation in the
print book, I indicate that, too, as I don't want
anyone to think I did a careless job of proofreading.
smile
Cindy
--- Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I have not read Before the Dawn, but I just looked
> it up on the Bookshare
> site and it may very well be my next download.
> Judging by the author and some
> hints in the synopsis, though, I suspect that it
> contains NY Times style touting
> of sociobiology about which I have some
> reservations. I notice that the
> synopsis contains some notes that apparently are
> editing notes. Should that be
> reported as a book quality issue?
>
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> Date:
> 1/25/2009 11:42:01 PM Eastern Standard Time
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> Have you read Before the Dawn? I validated it and
> found it fascinating. I'm not sure if it would be
> evolutionary biology or evolutionary something else.
>
> I guess I'm fortunate in that when I proofread I can
> concentrate on the content and fix scanning errors
> while I'm reading, but I have come to the conclusion
> that women's minds and men's are different that way.
> t
> seems to me that women can do wo things involving
> the
> mind at once where as men seem to be single-tracked.
>
> Cindy
>
> --- Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Okay, on this one the subject of the book may be
> off
> > topic, but the message
> > is about a book which is a potential scan for
> > Bookshare so I don't think this
> > could be considered too far off topic. I am
> > interested in evolutionary biology,
> > but I do not necessarily keep up with the dates
> that
> > various discoveries were
> > made or theories and hypotheses were advanced.
> > However, if this book was
> > published in 1970 I have my doubts that we are
> > talking about the Burgess of the
> > Burgess shale fame. After all, it was not too long
> > after that that Gould
> > published his punctuated equilibrium. On the other
> > hand, though, I don't know when
> > the Burgess shale was named or how long Burgess
> > continued to work or live. If
> > this book especially concerns the Cambrian
> explosian
> > it would increase the
> > chance that it was the same person considerably.
> If
> > you get it on Bookshare I will
> > be interested in reading it. I don't think I would
> > want to proofread it,
> > though, unless it hung around on the download list
> > for a long time. When it comes
> > to a book like that I prefer to concentrate on the
> > content rather than on
> > looking for scanning errors.
> >
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> > 1/24/2009 11:58:20 PM Eastern Standard Time
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> > Not sure if this is the same Burgess. I think the
> > 1st edition was 1970. It
> > is a reasonably exhaustive resource for the
> > collector. From a scientific
> > point
> > of view it seems to straddle the fence between the
> > old taxonomical orthodoxy
> > based on conchilial morphology and more recent
> > approaches. It's going to
> > be a real bear to scan. . . When I used it as a
> > reference in the '70s it was
> > a sizable tome of a hardbook full of population
> > distribution maps and color
> > plates. It may have been reissued under a new
> > edition. . . I hope so,
> > because the color photos all bore a slightly
> sickly
> > greenish tinge that could make
> > specimen identification a trial
> > sometimes.
> > If anyone decides to scannit, be prepared. . .
> it's
> > going to be a labour of
> > editing love.
> >
> > G.
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: (512) 286-5794
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> > 'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a
> > fuzzy concept'
> > Ansel Adams
> >
> > Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> > Sent by:
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> > 01/23/2009 09:33 PM
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> >
> > I am not in the mood to check bibliographies right
> > now, so let me ask. Does
> > my memory fail me or is that one of the works that
> S
> > Gould drew on heavily in
> > formulating his theory of punctuated equilibrium?
> > Whether it is or not, as a
> > Gould fan, I would be interested in reading it
> > myself. It is definitely one
> > I have not read. Presumably that is the same
> Burgess
> > of Burgess shale fame?
> > Do you know when it was published?
> >
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> >
> > Thank you Monica, if you ever became infatuated
> as
> > I am with the Cowrie
> > genus, please scan and submit to Bookshare
> >
> > The Living Cowries -- by C. M. Burgess
> >
> > It is, in fact, a somewhat dated if excellent book
> > on the subject. Yet,
> > passionate arguments on the problem of regional
> > population variants versus
> > subspeciation
> > in the all too variable C. arabicula. -- while
> > fascinating and valuable
> > amongst evolutionary biologists and malacologists
> --
> > would exceed the scope of
> > topical discussions on this board. Besides,
> > discussion of certain details of
> > Cowrie anatomy may even be found offensive to the
> > sensitivities of some non
> > initiates.
> >
> > (smiles!)
> >
> > G.
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: (512) 286-5794
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web:
> > http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > 'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a
> > fuzzy concept'
> > Ansel Adams
> >
> > Monica Willyard
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> >
> > 01/23/2009 07:51 PM
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> >
> > Guido, thanks for giving me something to smile
> > about. Your explanation
> > wonderfully surpasses anything I might have
> written.
> >
> >
> > Monica Willyard
> > "The best way to predict the future is to create
> > it." -- Peter Drucker
> >
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> > --
> > From: Guido Corona [
> > mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:49 PM
> > To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed
> > The Troll - smile
> >
> > Roger, the only issue is that the entire topic is
> > out of bound to the
> > subject of this list. In the same way, my
> opinions
> > on matters that may be of
> > passionate
> > interest to me, such as the geographic
> distribution
> > and speciation of Cyprea
> > arabicula, whether or not zapping a conductor with
> 1
> > million volts in a Tessla
> > device can be deemed Quantum Tunnelling, or the
> > contestation of the age of
> > the cretacean Iridium boundary, are all irrelevant
> > to this board. Whether
> > or not I can find friendly or opposing views to
> my
> > extremely strong
> > opinions on such topics, I would still be out of
> > order, unless I were to ask
> > bookshare-related
> > questions such as. . .
> >
> > Are there bookshare books that can help me to
> > research patterns of speciation
> > in isolated populations of C. arabicula?
> >
> > Saluti, Guido
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: (512) 286-5794
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web:
> > http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > 'there is nothing worse than a sharp image of a
> > fuzzy concept'
> > Ansel Adams
> >
> > Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> > Sent by:
> >
> > 01/23/2009 03:17 PM
> >
> > Please respond to
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> > To
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> >
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> >
> > [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The
> Troll
> > - smile
> > table end
> >
> >
> >
> > Believe it or not, people who have different
> > opinions than yours are not
> > necessarily angry and bitter. If you think you
> have
> > gotten to know an imaginary
> > being you might have a hard time understanding
> that,
> > but it is true. I think
> > you will also find it much more liberating to form
> > your opinions by basing
> > them on objective reality rather than unfounded
> > assumptions. That way you
> > will not presume to know anything about another
> > person's experiences without
> > even knowing that person. Believe me, seeking and
> > finding truth is an
> > extremely gratifying thing to do and has to beat
> > just claiming something to be the
> > truth without even trying to test it against
> > reality.
> >
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> > Subj:
> >
> > [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The
> Troll
> > - smile
> > Date:
> > 1/23/2009 1:27:04 PM Eastern Standard Time
> > From:
> > shirleytracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Reply-to:
> > bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To:
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> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > I'm sorry that you have had such a bad experience
> > with religion that you
> > have become angry and bitter. As for me, coming to
> > know God was what freed me
> > from the confines of "Religion." You see, I
> believe
> > there is a big
> > difference. Now, if you were not so angry, you
> would
> > not have responded to the notice
> > about the Christian book thing. I didn't respond
> to
> > a notice about fantasy
> > books, even though I'm not particularly interested
> > in them.
> >
> > Your quick response tells me you're still
> > hurting--and for that I am really
> > sorry.
> >
> > Shirley
> >
> > P.S. I didn't remove my name from the list because
> > others of you out there
> > have had some interesting things to say. I seldom
> > jump in, but I am learning
> > a lot
> >
> > block quote
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From:
> > Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx
> >
> > To:
> > bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:50 AM
> >
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed
> > The Troll - smile
> >
> > Your point is quite legitimate. It is interesting
> > that those who object to
> > the pot being stirred are at the same time
> > vigorously stirring the pot. It is
> > as simple as this. If I am looking at a message
> that
> > I have a response to
> > then, like anyone else, I respond to it. In the
> > process of making those responses
> > I am bound to express my opinions. If you don't
> like
> > those opinions -- and I
> > am using the universal you here -- then, really,
> > honestly, think about it,
> > that really is just tough shit. The plain fact is
> > that there are a lot of
> > people in this world whose opinions you are not
> > going to like and if you open
> > your mind enough to accept that then I guarantee
> > that you will be a lot
> > happier. Opening your mind may run counter to what
> > you have been taught in church,
> > but churches, despite what they might say, are in
> > the business of controlling
> > you, not ensuring your personal happiness. I will
> > also point out that even
> > though I have never been a believer myself I have
> > known any number of
> > atheists who were former religionists and their
> > stories are very similar. The story
> > is always one of accumulating doubts and
> discomfort
> > with their upbringing and
> > that is usually rather sad, but the part where
> they
> > put their upbringing
> > behind them and finally break with religion is an
> > entirely different matter.
> > They always describe it as the most liberating
> > experience in their lives and
> > one of the most liberating parts is that they can
> > finally disagree with
> > others without feeling a self destructive gnawing
> > hatred inside. It still remains,
> > though, that if you have not had that liberating
> > experience and it upsets you
> > so much to hear an opinion that is different from
> > your own you can minimize
> > exposure to those opinions by not denigrating them
> > and thereby provoking the
> > person with the different opinion to respond to
> you.
> >
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> > Subj:
> > [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed The
> Troll
> > - smile
> > Date:
> > 1/23/2009 6:09:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
> > From:
> > dhubb100@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >
> > I'mnew to thislist but it seems to me that if
> people
> > don't react the pot in
> > effect hasn't been stired. And, this really
> doesn't
> > help any of us who need
> > help or want to discuss Bookshare right?
> >
> > -Diane
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:18 PM
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Please Don't Feed
> > The Troll - smile
> >
> > > It is interesting, isn't it? Most discussion
> > lists get a person who
> > > trolls, sooner or later. Usually the list
> manager
> > puts a troll on
> > > moderate so that they don't get the opportunity
> to
> > constantly stir up the
> > > pot. Since Bookshare hasn't ever assigned an
> > active list manager to this
> > > list, as far as I've ever seen, the only way
> left
> > for the list members to
> > > handle a troll is to ignore the posts made by
> that
> > individual every time
> > > they begin trolling. smile.
> > >
> > > Judy s.
> > >
> > > Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
> > >> Thanks, Judy. That's really interesting. I'd
> > never
> > >> heard that term before.
> > >> smile
> > >>
>
> > >> Cindy
> > >>
> > >> --- "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Cindy, Sharon and Patti, Roger is trolling
> every
> > >>> time someone posts regarding Christianity, and
> > has done so since
> > >>> he came on the list.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you're not familiar with the term "troll"
> or
> > >>> "internet troll," here's a definition from
> > Wikipedia:
> > >>>
> > >>> "An Internet troll, or simply troll in
> Internet
> > >>> slang, is someone who posts controversial,
> > inflammatory, irrelevant or
> > >>> off-topic messages in an online community,
> such
> > as an online
> > >>> discussion forum or chat room, with the
> > intention of provoking
> > >>> other users into an emotional response or to
> > generally disrupt
> > >>> normal on-topic discussion"
> > >>>
> > >>> The best way to handle trolling (again I'll
> > quote
> > >>> from Wikipedia, as they put it well) is
> simple:
> > "Do not feed the
> > >>> troll." You'll find that abbreviated as
> > "D-N-F-T" or "D-F-T-T" in
> > >>> Internet slang.
> > >>>
> > >>> Put simply: you'll drive yourself crazy by
> > getting
> > >>> sucked into a discussion with someone who is
> > trolling. Consider
> > >>> just ignoring a troll's posts when he or she
> is
> > trolling. Provoking a
> > >>> response is what a troll enjoys. Roger himself
> > has posted
> > >>> here that he loves to stir things up just for
> > the fun he gets out
> > >>> of it. grin.
> > >>>
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