We certainly have! This is the last post for me on this subject, but for those who don't like Doubletalk, both the Icon and Braille plus use Eloquence.
At 09:07 AM 12/16/2007 -0500, you wrote:
Hi; Thanks for the info. Sounds very interesting. We have come a long way since braille and speak. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yerba Bruja" <yerbabruja@xxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:40 AM Subject: [bookport] correction was: Re: Re: Book Port Sorry. I said in my response utility that braille plus had a tape recording utility. I meant a recording utility. Marta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yerba Bruja" <yerbabruja@xxxxxxxx> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:19 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port > Hello Richard: > > The difference between the icon and braille plus keyboards, is that the > braille plus comes with two extra keys, located at the right and left of > the spacebar. The left key is the shift key, and the right key is the > control key. So when you write uncontracted braille on it, you have your > own shift key, and don't have to write uncapped letters, or invoke some > inconvenient key combination to cap the letters. The braille plus is > about the size of a walkman, so yes it is smaller than the braille and > speak. > > One of the things you might find convenient about the braille plus, is > that if you're no longer used to typing on a braille keyboard, (as I am,) > you can connect a u.s.b. keyboard via the interface cable that the unit > brings, or use a foldable bluetooth thinkout keyboard for more transport > convenience, as the unit is blue tooth enabled. > > The other thing that's convenient, is that when you use contracted braille > on the braille plus, the unit has a program that automatically translates > what you write to regular print when you send out emails with it. So you > don't have to stop and conduct a translation operation before sending out > those messages. > > It is true that the unit is more expensive than a laptop, but it also > provides conveniences that the laptop doesn't. For one thing it's more > convenient to run around the city with it, as it's a lot smaller and > lighter than the laptop. Also using the wireless feature is a lot easier > than using the ones on the laptops. At least that's my experience. You > also get greater battery use than you do with most laptops. If memory > serves, most laptop batteries give you about three hours worth of non-a.c. > power, whereas the braille plus gives you 10 hours if the wireless network > is turned off, and 8 hours if it is turned on. The storage capacity is > greater than that of a lot of laptops, (though I don't know if that has > changed with the windows vista laptops.) This unit has a forty gig hard > drive and four gigs of ram. Like the laptop it has an mp3 media player > and a tape recording utility. And it's already set up to get news rss > feeds and some podcasts. > > I wish it had a modem or could accept a wireless internet card for those > times when you're not around a wireless hotspot, but the eventual release > of the docking station should take care of the lack of a modem, as it'll > come with an ethernet card, and if you have a wireless router on your pc, > you can set up the unit to be recognized, and use its wireless internet > feature that way. And although I am not able to use this device for > wireless internet where I'm at in Puerto Rico, as I'm neither near any > wireless hotspots, nor do I have a wireless router, it's still a pretty > convenient note taking and book reading device. I did use its wireless > internet feature when I was in Boston last month, and absolutely loved > being able to get email without having to be tethered to a pc or lugging > around a laptop. > > And speaking of its book reading capacity, accessing electronic braille on > this unit is a lot more convenient. As you can transfer them from a thumb > drive, or by connecting the unit to your computer via a u.s.b. cable as if > it were another disk drive. Once the books have been stored in the unit, > you can immediately start reading. You don't have to use a transfer > protocol to read your books. > > Now, that doesn't mean I have no use for the bookport, as I still like the > convenience of not having to worry about the bookport's battery for about > a week or more, and the bookport is still slightly smaller than the > braille plus. I use them both. > > Marta > P.S. And sorry for the ot. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Fiorello" <richkar1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:55 AM > Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port > > >> Hi; >> I know this is a bookport list but it was said that the primary >> difference >> between the braille plus and the icon is the braille keyboard? If so, >> what >> type of keyboard is on the icon? I'm impressed with the size if its >> really >> smaller than the braille n speak. Its a shame its so pricey. >> You could still buy a laptop for lots less but it would also be bigger. >> I find it difficult writing grade one or computer braille with a braille >> keyboard. My fingers think in grade two. Gets confusing when you try >> and >> transfer that info to a pc. >> Thanks everyone for all the web braille and memory card info. >> Richard >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rob Lambert" <rmlambert1987@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:49 PM >> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port >> >> >> The Icon and Braille Plus are both about 1/2 the size of the Braille 'n >> Speak and roughly 1/4 the size of the BrailleNote (or so I've heard); >> however both units will definitely fit in your pocket. If you are braille >> savvy I'd recommend the Braille Plus because if you turn it sideways 90 >> degrees clockwise, you will be greeted with a full 6 dot braille keyboard >> and a shift & control key on either side of a central space bar. The main >> difference between the two units is the fact that the Braille Plus has >> those >> extra keys on it (just think of it as the Icon Plus Braille). However, >> you >> can get an external Bluetooth keyboard (such as the iGo Stowaway - >> formerly >> the ThinkOutside Stowaway keyboard) and it will recognize it immediately. >> You can also get a full docking station that provides extra power to the >> unit if needed as well as a full QWERTY (or Braille) keyboard (your >> choice). >> >> Sharon <mt281820@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I'm a bit confused; what's the >> difference between Braille Plus and the Icon? >> How large are they? I'm looking for something small once my laptop dies; >> something I can carry around but read with, and type clinical notes on >> and >> synchronize with my desktop. Sharon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of PAMELA RADER >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:47 AM >> To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [bookport] Re: Book Port >> >> >> Bertha: >> >> As Marta said, we also now have the Braille + PDA Mobile Manager, which >> will >> currently read BRF files, Daisy files from Book Share and MP3 files. As >> I >> also pointed out yesterday, if you were on the list then, we are >> currently >> testing for NLS, so it will also be able to do that format soon, as well >> as >> Audible.com books. >> >> Since it is a PDA, it does more than the Book Port. The price is $1395. >> I >> understand that not everyone can afford that, but you asked the question >> and >> currently, that is the answer. >> >> >> Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT >> American Printing House For The Blind >> 1839 Frankfort Ave. >> Louisville, KY 40206 >> >> PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >> >> >>>>> missmommymomma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 12/13/07 10:51PM >>> >> Hello All, >> Is there any other product through APH that is similar to the Book Port. >> I had just about made a decision to purchase a Book Port and I found out, >> they are no longer availible. >> thank You >> Bertha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1185 - Release Date: >> 12/15/2007 12:00 PM >> >> > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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