[bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program

  • From: "Don Barrett" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:12:35 -0500

Yes, the digital book program in no way is meant to supplant web Braille.  I
have heard that their download site will contain web Braille books and the
new digital audio books. 

"-----Original Message-----
"From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
"[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Keys
"Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 8:17 PM
"To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program
"
"Hi,
"So does anyone know if after the new Digital Talking Books are 
"available, will Web Braille still have brf files available for 
"download?
"
"On Nov 6, 2006, at 5:10 PM, Michael Bowman-Jones wrote:
"
"> Greetings Don, Walt and List.
">
"> I also send along my thanks to Pamela for her forthrightness in 
"> handling the "E-storm" on this issue.  I have to admit, 
"though, that I 
"> am very torn in that I just bought my BP (a couple of months
"> ago) and now wonder if I should have waited for the new one.  (Oh 
"> well, that's always a problem with things technological because they 
"> are always changing.)  Since one reason for getting the BP 
"was my hope 
"> of NLS compatibility so the BP would be my backup unit to their 
"> player, it appears I should have done more research and waited.  Be 
"> that as it may, I still really enjoy this unit and will 
"consider it a 
"> complement to the NLS unit since I won't be able
"> (probably) to use it as an NLS-unit backup, as was my intent.
">
"> Michael
">
"> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Barrett" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
"> To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
"> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:45 PM
"> Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program
">
">
">> Pam, Thanks for the candid and forthright note.   I think we all  
">> fully
">> appreciate that the current model has reached its zenith in 
"terms of 
">> the formats it can handle, and I for one, wouldn't expect it to 
">> handle newer formats, such as the one NLS is working on.  When I 
">> spoke of being curious about hardware redesign, I was referring to 
">> finding out about efforts to redesign the new unit, which, as you 
">> have stated, is being done as we speak.
">> Knowing that a new unit is in the works for release some 
"time in 2007 
">> certainly puts my mind at rest about the subject.
">>
">> The nice thing about having the downloadable books from NLS is that 
">> the BookPort won't have to worry about using any 
"specialized type of 
">> card. If, as you all intimate, the new unit will support 
"the new NLS 
">> format, then books can simply be transferred to whatever 
"card the new 
">> unit will take, and reading will be a breeze.
">>
">> Since I was the one who created such a flurry about this 
"topic on the 
">> list, I am now happy, given Larry and Pam's responses, to 
"wait to see 
">> what the coming year will bring.
">> Believe it or not, even I can be patient and quiet for a while, and 
">> besides, Walt, the list Sergeant at Arms, won't let me get 
"away with 
">> being too pushy.
">>
">> Don
">>
">>
">>
">>
">>
">>
">> "-----Original Message-----
">> "From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
">> "[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of PAMELA RADER
">> "Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:14 AM
">> "To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
">> "Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program "
">> "Hello Don and Others:
">> "
">> "First of all, since the NLS digital structure is still under 
">> "development, it is too soon to know exactly what we are 
"and "aren't 
">> going to do.  However, given what we know thus far, I "can tell you 
">> what I've been told so far.  Because the new NLS "format will use 
">> something other than a Compact Flash Card like "the one the 
"Book Port 
">> uses, it is very doubtful that the "current Book Port will 
"be able to 
">> play the new books.
">> "Also, you are talking about making changes to the current 
""hardware, 
">> which I seriously doubt we will be doing, since we "are already in 
">> the midst of designing a new unit, which will "be a whole 
"new design, 
">> we won't be making any changes in the "current unit and its 
"design.  
">> It'd be very difficult to keep "two designs going and 2 units, 
">> especially if you are a "nonproffit company.  You have to 
"do what is 
">> best for the whole "picture.  That's not to say that we won't 
">> continue to support "the current Book Port, because we 
"will.  We will 
">> and are "currently fixing any problems that come up with respect to 
">> "it's current functionality.
">> "One of the reasons for this new design is because of the 
""changes in 
">> technology and the changes at NLS.  As you know, "technology is 
">> always changing and you have to change with it.
">> "However, there's only so much you can cram into one box, 
"thus, "when 
">> the box gets overcrowded or can't expand any further, due "to 
">> hardware limitations or whatever, then you have to make a 
""new box.  
">> This question has come up many times before and our "programming 
">> staff has assured us that we are staying in touch "with the NLS 
">> program, after all, we do a lot of work for them "and it 
"would stand 
">> to reason that we are looking into it.
">> "It's not like it's going to sneak up on us one day.  We get "many 
">> phone calls on this particular issue, as you might expect 
""( in fact, 
">> I got one on Friday from the originator of this "message).  
"I realize 
">> it's a hot topic and one that we are all "anxious about.  
">> Unfortunately, we are all going to have to be "patient, 
"while all of 
">> this is worked out.  There could be some "technical things that I'm 
">> not aware of, but I feel quite "certain that if it were at all 
">> possible to make the current "machine play NLS books, we 
"would do it, 
">> because it would be in "our best interest to do so.  If it can't, 
">> then you do "something else.  As you all know, any time you are in 
">> the "middle of developing something, situations come up that can 
">> "sometimes push things back.  At first, we were told that the "new 
">> Book Port would be ready by the first of the year. Now, it 
""has been 
">> moved back to late Spring or early Summer.  That's "the 
"best answer I 
">> can give you at this point.  I'm sure if "Larry has 
"something else to 
">> add, he'll do so, when he has time "(in between developing and 
">> working with the new unit and all "of the other things we're coming 
">> out with in the coming year).
">> " I realize that some of you will be upset with this message, 
">> "because you want the current unit to support the new NLS "format.  
">> As I've said before, technology is an everchanging "facet.  
"There are 
">> many people who've purchased Braille 'N "Speaks just this year and 
">> when the next note taker or PDA "comes out, they'll have the same 
">> questions and issues and be "upset because they have to decide 
">> whether or not to continue "using what they have or move onto 
">> something else.  Eventually, "as with the Braille 'N Speak and the 
">> current Book Port, parts "become hard to get or dry up and you have 
">> to move on and do "something else.  The cassette will be a thing of 
">> the past.  As "difficult as it may be to believe, we still 
"sell a lot 
">> of "cassette machines.  Eventually, those people are going to be 
">> "left out in the cold.  I feel for those people who won't 
"be "able to 
">> move forward into the next thing.  Fortunately, NLS "will provide 
">> something we can play our books on, I just hope "it's 
"something that 
">> will be easy for them to use as well.
">> "Anyway, that's a whole other soapbox for another time.  The "point 
">> is--we are doing what we can and we will have to stay "tuned.  This 
">> is just my take on the issue, for what it's "worth.  Since I'm just 
">> the Technical Support Specialist, this "and 80 cents might 
"get you a 
">> cup of coffee or a pack of "Rollaides.  Anyway, we do hear you loud 
">> and clear and are "taking your wishes seriously.
">> "
">> "
">> "
">> "
">> "Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT
">> "American Printing House For The Blind
">> "1839 Frankfort Ave.
">> "Louisville, KY  40206
">> "
">> "PHONE:  1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307
">> "
">> "
">> ">>> donter@xxxxxxxxxxx 11/03/06 08:08PM >>> "I've been off of the 
">> list for a bit so if this has already "been covered, someone please 
">> straighten me out, but if not, it "really is time for it to be 
">> addressed directly by APH.
">> "
">> "As you know, the NLS beta program testing the facility to 
""download 
">> and read digital books is proceeding quite well.  I "am 
"told that the 
">> site may be available to all NLS patrons "sometime around 
"the middle 
">> of 2007.  Since the handling of "these materials by the 
"BookPort will 
">> require hardware, "firmware, and software changes, it would 
"seem that 
">> time is of "the essence if the Bookport is to undergo a redesign, 
">> pass all "of the rigorous beta and other testing, and make a smooth 
">> "transition to allowing its owners to read NLS-produced 
""materials in 
">> digital form when the site becomes available.
">> "Can you all shed any light on this?  I can just imagine that "when 
">> the NLS site goes live, any device that is not ready to "deal with 
">> those materials will suffer much negative press to "say nothing of 
">> decreased sales and popularity.  Since the "BookPort is 
"probably the 
">> coolest device invented since the "electric coffee-maker, I would 
">> hate to see it undergo such a "bumpy transition.  NLS 
"implementation 
">> time just is not that "far off, and I believe APH has a 
">> responsibility to its "customers to make a public commitment to 
">> support this reading "system for the blind which will be free and 
">> available to all "non-print reading citizens.  As I say, I may have 
">> missed this "discussion, so if this has already happened, I will 
">> gladly "back off, and wait for it all to play out.
">> "
">> "On the other hand, APH has been alluding to a new unit for 
">> "literally years, and given the true closeness of the NLS 
">> "implementation date (perhaps half a year or there abouts 
"to if "all 
">> goes well), we really need the real deal and soon.  Please "what is 
">> going on.
">> "
">> "Don Barrett
">> "
">> "
">> "
">> "
">>
">>
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