Hi Don and list:I contacted Neil Bernstein and asked to be involved in the beta testing. In his response, he mentioned that I wasn't eligible because he was unable to supply the hardware the testing required. Perhaps Catalina and others interested should contact him.
Cheers, Dave----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Barrett" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program
The beta test is still going on, and I understand that NLS has a waiting list. I can't speak for them though, so don't know if they are adding people to the waiting list. "-----Original Message----- "From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Catalina Roisum "Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:41 PM "To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program " "Hi to the list: " "Has the beta testing stopped? Can one still be a beta tester "and how? Thanks Catalina and Tristan Be who you are and say "what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those "who matter don't mind. "- Dr. Seuss " "----- Original Message ----- "From: "Don Barrett" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx> "To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> "Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 10:40 AM "Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program " " "> Bill, "> "> The nls scheme is actually better than the one you are using "with your "> local "> library; I use that one too and you are limited to 21 days "after which you "> have to go through the trouble of downloading it again, or as you "> correctly "> say, convert it to an MP3 file for storage on the BookPort. "With NLS, you "> will have literally tens of thousands of free, "professionally-recorded "> books "> of the highest quality which will never ever run out; in "other words, no "> 21-day limit. You can play them fore ten years and no one will mind. "> "> I stopped using my local service because I would get busy "and the 21 days "> would run out, or I would forget to convert them; it just "got tedious. "> NLS "> wants to make it as simple and as easy as possible "especially for those "> novice users who don't know how to convert books. "> "> Anyway, lots of good reading ahead. "> "> Don "> "> "> "-----Original Message----- "> "From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "> "[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill "> "Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 11:12 AM "> "To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "> "Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program "> " "> "Thanks for your comments. I'm new to digital book downloading "> "so please forgive my ignorance. I do understand about NLS and "> "copyright protection. "> "How is it, then, that I can download copyright protected "> "digital books from my local library and play them on my "> "computer or convert them to mp3 files and play them on my "> "bookport for up to 21 days after which they can no longer be "> "played unless you check them out again. Couldn't NLS do the "> "same thing? "> "BILL "> " "> "----- Original Message ----- "> "From: "Don Barrett" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx> "> "To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> "> "Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:30 AM "> "Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program "> " "> " "> "> Bill, copyright is the main issue for the need for a "> "specialized format. "> "> NLS has no choice or they wouldn't be able to publish "> "materials freely; "> "> Spring will do whatever APH pays them to do. I really have "> "to disagree "> "> with "> "> your take on this. "> "> "> "> "-----Original Message----- "> "> "From: bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "> "> "[mailto:bookport-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bill "> "> "Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 6:14 AM "> "> "To: bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "> "> "Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program "> "> " "> "> "As we all know, it is springer designs that designed, modify "> "> "and manufacture the bookport. It is up to them to make any "> "> "hardware, firmware or software changes and no doubt they can "> "> "make any changes to the unit that will meet our needs. APH "> "> "can certainly have some influence on springer designs, and "> "> "have doubtless done so in the past. But, they cannot dictabe "> "> "what changes are to be made. The real "culprit" here, I "> "> "think, is NLS. Why would they come out with a format for "> "> "their book download program or for their new digital player "> "> "that is not currently widely used such as mp3? Is it because "> "> "they must be different or are they just not living in the real "> "> "world. Much money wasted here I think. Give APH credit when "> "> "credit is due. I think they've done a great job. "> "> " "> "> "BILL "> "> " "> "> "----- Original Message ----- "> "> "From: "Michael Bowman-Jones" <mikebowmanjones@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> "> "> "To: <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> "> "> "Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:41 PM "> "> "Subject: [bookport] Re: NLS Beta Program "> "> " "> "> " "> "> "> Greetings, Everyone. "> "> "> "> "> "> I alluded to this issue quite some type in another message "> "> "indicating that "> "> "> NLS and DAISY could really have an impact on the Bookport. "> "> "However the "> "> "> unit is modified, I hope that APH will give existing "customers a "> "> "> significant price decrease (free is better, of course but "> "maybe not "> "> "> feasible) when this occurs. "> "> "> "> "> "> Michael"> "> "> ----- Original Message ----- "> "> "> From: "Don Barrett" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx>"> "> "> To: "Bookport" <bookport@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> "> "> "> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:08 PM "> "> "> Subject: [bookport] NLS Beta Program "> "> "> "> "> "> "> "> ">> I've been off of the list for a bit so if this has already "> "> "been covered, "> "> ">> someone please straighten me out, but if not, it really is "> "> "time for it to "> "> ">> be "> "> ">> addressed directly by APH. "> "> ">> "> "> ">> As you know, the NLS beta program testing the facility to "> "> "download and "> "> ">> read "> "> ">> digital books is proceeding quite well. I am told that the "> "> "site may be "> "> ">> available "> "> ">> to all NLS patrons sometime around the middle of "2007. Since the "> "> ">> handling "> "> ">> of these materials by the BookPort will require hardware, "> "> "firmware, and "> "> ">> software "> "> ">> changes, it would seem that time is of the essence if the "> "> "Bookport is to "> "> ">> undergo a redesign, pass all of the rigorous beta and other "> "> "testing, and "> "> ">> make "> "> ">> a smooth transition to allowing its owners to read "> "> "NLS-produced materials "> "> ">> in "> "> ">> digital form when the site becomes available. Can you all "> "> "shed any light "> "> ">> on "> "> ">> this? I can just imagine that when the NLS site goes live, "> "> "any device "> "> ">> that "> "> ">> is not ready to deal with those materials will suffer much "> "> "negative press "> "> ">> to "> "> ">> say nothing of decreased sales "> "> ">> and popularity. Since the BookPort is probably the "> "coolest device "> "> ">> invented "> "> ">> since the electric coffee-maker, I would hate to see it "> "> "undergo such a "> "> ">> bumpy "> "> ">> transition. NLS implementation time just is not that far "> "> "off, and I "> "> ">> believe "> "> ">> APH has a responsibility to its customers to make a public "> "> "commitment to "> "> ">> support this reading system for the blind which will "be free and "> "> ">> available "> "> ">> to all non-print reading citizens. As I say, I may have "> "missed this "> "> ">> discussion, so if this has already happened, I will gladly "> "> "back off, and "> "> ">> wait for it all to play out. "> "> ">> "> "> ">> On the other hand, APH has been alluding to a new unit for "> "> "literally "> "> ">> years, "> "> ">> and given the true closeness of the NLS implementation date "> "> "(perhaps half "> "> ">> a "> "> ">> year or there abouts to if all goes well), we really need "> "> "the real deal "> "> ">> and "> "> ">> soon. Please what is going on. "> "> ">> "> "> ">> Don Barrett "> "> ">> "> "> ">> "> "> ">> "> "> ">> "> "> ">> __________ NOD32 1.1786 (20061002) Information __________ "> "> ">> "> "> ">> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. "> "> ">> http://www.eset.com "> "> ">> "> "> ">> "> "> "> "> "> "> "> "> "> "> "> " "> "> " "> "> " "> "> "> "> "> "> "> " "> " "> " "> "> "> " "