[blindza] Re: Next silly question about virtual vision, eye symptoms etc.

  • From: <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 08:56:42 +0200

Well, all my sort of real imaginings are in the back of my mind - as in
don't really 'see' them as such, but sort of imagine them rather vaguely,
whereas these permanently changing grey pixelated shapes, etc. are right
there, but not clear/too useful as such.

Stay well

On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:58:04 +0200, "Magda Felgate"
<magdafelgate@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> HI JACOB,
> I OFTEN SEE ROES OF WRITTEN WRITING AS WELL AS PRINTED LETTERS. IT JUST
> ROLES ON AND ON.MOSTLY, NOW, THOUGH I CAN NOT MAKE OUT WHAT IT SAYS. 
JUST
> AS IF I AM TRYING TO READ IT BUT, THE PRINT IS JUST TOO, SMALL FOR ME TO
> MAKE OUT.  FUNNY, A LOT OF TIMES IT IS THE TYPE OF PRINT THAT THEY USE IN
> THE BIBLE. .. BUT, .., I NEED TO READ THE MESSAGE BUT JUST CAN NOT MAKE
IT
> OUT.
> I HAVE GOT A VERY GOOD IMAGINATION AS WELL.  I EXPERIENCE IT IN FULL
COLOR
> ALL THOU, WITH THE BIT OF SIGHT THAT I HAVE LEFT, I CAN NOT SEE COLOR,
ANY
> MORE.
> SOME TIMES I SIT AND WANT TO SEE SOME THING WITH MY BRAIN BUT THEN THE
> THING DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE IT TO ME AND AT OTHER TIMES I KEEP ON SEEING
> FACES OF PEOPLE THAT, HAS LONG GONE
> I WISH WITH ALL MY HEART THAT I COULD GO FOR THE STEMCELL IMPLANTS, THAT
> THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHILE I'VE GOT SOME, A DROP, OF VISION LEFT.  I
AM
> TERRIFIED TO THINK THAT IT IS SLOWLY DISAPPEARING.  IT IS LIKE A LONG,
VERY
> LONG NIGHTMARE THAT I JUST CAN NOT GET OUT OF.
> LOL! ...LOL!
> MAGDA FELGATE.
> WOEFIES, WAFFIES! ME 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Jacob Kruger 
>   To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:43 PM
>   Subject: [blindza] Re: Next silly question about virtual vision, eye
>   symptoms etc.
> 
> 
>   I am 100% blind, but still have a lot of imagination as well as a
>   slightly diffferent approach to certain things...<smile>.
> 
>   I also did use to have a certain percentage of photographic vision
which
>   I suppose might be related to how I still visualise pictures of things
>   even if have never seen them as such - I literally have a picture in my
>   brain of the basic braille alphabet in black raised dots on a piece of
>   white paper, with thin blue lines that I sometimes sort of compare to
>   what it feels like...LOL!
> 
>   And that's where I hadn't even really, consciously known that braille
was
>   actually dots in any sort of arrangement close to what it really is -
>   thought it was more of a tactile version of morse code or something.
> 
>   Anyway, who knows - not me - and that's why am asking this on the list
to
>   see if anyone has felt/seen/experienced anything similar as such.
> 
>   Stay well
> 
>   Jacob Kruger
>   Blind Biker
>   Skype: BlindZA
>   '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Magda Felgate 
>     To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>     Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:11 PM
>     Subject: [blindza] Re: Next silly question about virtual vision, eye
>     symptoms etc.
> 
> 
>     HEY JACOB,
>     I THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE ALL TOGETHER BLIND.  IS IT, SO?DO YOU KNOW
THAT
>     I STILL LOOK UP TO TRY TO SEE A BIRD WEN I HEAR IT CHIRP.  ONE DAY MY
>     EYES MIGHT SURPRISE ME.  I THINK THAT IF YOU COULD SEE LIKE US, IT IS
>     VERY DIFFICULT NOT TO CONJURE IMAGES UP FOR YOUR SELF AS YOU THINK
>     THINGS SHOULD LOOK LIKE.  SOME TIMES I THINK OF SOMETHING LOOKING
LIKE
>     SO, AND WHEN I FEEL, IT I AM A BIT SHOCKED TO SEE WHAT SHAPE IT HAS.
>     IT STAYS VERY INTERESTING, THOUGH.
>     TO TRY TO FEEL HOW FAR AN OBJECT, IS FROM YOU WITH OUT SEEING IT,
WHERE
>     SOME ONE, JUST PUT IT, ALSO STAYS A CHALLENGE TO ME.  IT IS AS IF WE
>     HAVE TO PROOF SOME THING TO OUR SELVES OR TEST OUR SELVES ALL THE
TIME.
>      I CAN STILL SEE A BIT AND AT TIMES IT IS VERY CONFUSING.  I CAN NOT
>     SEE IN BRIGHT LIGHT AT ALL.  IF I SIT INFRONT OF MY COMPUTER AND SOME
>     ONE SITS NEXT TO ME THAT HAS TO READ ON THE SCREEN, IT FEELS AS IF A
>     HOT COLE BURNS INTO MY EYES.
>     I DO NOT KNOW, BUT TO ME IT FEELS AS IF PEOPLE WANTS TO JUDGE US BY
HOW
>     QUICK WE ADAPT TO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS AND, OH YES, OF CAUSE, WE MUST
>     REMEMBER EVERY BODIES VOICE, DOES NOT MATTE WHAT NOISE IS IN THE BACK
>     GROUND OR HOW LONG AGO WE'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.  YOU KNOW,
>     NOW THAT WE CAN NOT SEE,  WE ARE THESE, SUPER DUPER HUMAN BEINGS.
>     HAHA,HEHEHEHAHAHA!  LITTLE DO THEY KNOW UNDE WHAT STRAIN WE HAVE TO
>     PERFORM FOR THEM, EVERY DAY!TELL ME MORE IF YOU STUMBLE  ON TO
>     SOMETHING NEW!
>     GO WELL MY FRIEND AND INZY, WOEF WAFF!.
>     MAGDA AND LIARA, FELGATE.  
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: Jacob Kruger 
>       To: NAPSA Blind 
>       Cc: BlindZA 
>       Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:02 PM
>       Subject: [blindza] Next silly question about virtual vision, eye
>       symptoms etc.
> 
> 
>       Another thing the therapist in the UK tested my eyes with in 2006
was
>       to see how they reacted to some really strong reading glasses, even
>       though I'm a B1.
> 
>       In any case, to this day, if I put on reading glasses, it's like
when
>       in sighted days you'd feel your pupils changing shape/trying to
adapt
>       focus, etc., and even then it was a little uncomfortable, and to
this
>       day it still feels rather similar.
> 
>       Now just wondering if this is just due to my body reacting to an
old
>       memory, or is the light passing through these lenses affecting
>       literally only the pupils/eyes themselves, as opposed to the brain
>       reacting to the now different visual signal coming through?
> 
>       Also, this is not something I tried in bright lights, where I
suppose
>       it could be almost like focusing light on the eye like a magnifying
>       glass since that's basically what most of the cheapish reading
>       glasses are similar to, but did make sure tried it out in at least
>       some light to see if that affected the reaction at all - did a bit,
>       but I knew had turned the lights on myself as such.
> 
>       I do also have another pair of normal short-sighted glasses, and my
>       eyes do also seem to react differently to them even if I try to
make
>       sure I don't know which is which before hand if that makes sense -
>       they make me feel like my eyes are changing focus, but not so
>       uncomfortably as such.
> 
>       This is just another slightly irrelevant question that have been
>       wondering about for some time, and, FWIW, the guy in the UK
reckoned
>       he was using it to test if my eyes were in fact still passing some
or
>       other semi-subconscious type of signal through to my brain,
although
>       it wasn't being recognised/noticed as such etc. etc.
> 
>       This whole thing relating to unnecessary reading glasses being
>       somewhat uncomfortable especially if looking at things further away
>       than a book right in front of you will also, most likely only make
>       sense to previously sighted guys.
> 
>       Lastly, the other thing the guy in UK tested me with was different
>       coloured sunglasses, of the same shapes, and he reckons I got those
>       colours right roundabout 80% of the time as well FWIW.
> 
>       Stay well
> 
>       Jacob Kruger
>       Blind Biker
>       Skype: BlindZA
>       '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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