The sidecar idea should work if you have a good understanding between you and your navigator. I sometimes ride a quad bike with a sighted navigator on the back, so if worst comes to worst, he can grab my elbows to rectify any steering errors. Thanks / Regards Carl de Campos SQL DBA Business Connection for Edcon E-Mail: carldc@xxxxxxxxxx Cell: 078 750 0307 Skype: carl.de.campos Personal Web Site: http://carldc.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:45 Subject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Radio SAFM interview on riding Idea is to ride bike on open road with sighted passenger in side car, but the other one is to ride a normal bike into parking area at biker daytime party/jol, and then climb off it after maybe attracting a bit of attention by revving it or something...all as part of the awareness joke, but anyway...LOL! Same way have already had at least a couple of people who thought I was making a bad joke by using cane until they realised it was for real... I have found that common opinion is still that blind/VI guys don't ever get out into/do anything in the real world... Stay well Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl de Campos To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 9:57 AM Subject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Radio SAFM interview on riding Ha ha, I like the idea of parking a bike/side car combo, and then walking with your cane into the shopping centre, can imagine the comments. I used to go 4x4 trips with a friend, and he would let me drive the 4x4 through some challenging obstacles, but he was a good navigator, and then he would make me park it, get out, and walk around the car with the cane. Thanks / Regards Carl de Campos SQL DBA Business Connection for Edcon E-Mail: carldc@xxxxxxxxxx Cell: 078 750 0307 Skype: carl.de.campos Personal Web Site: http://carldc.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 07:20 Subject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Radio SAFM interview on riding Well, I have a sidecar here in my garage, and still just need to find the right bike to fit it to, and the idea (part of it anyway) is that I might be able to persuade some sighted person to sit in the side car and direct me while I ride the bike - although it's not quite the same. Otherwise, always say at some stage, similar to how I get instructed when riding on the pit area of Phakisa, I want to wait until a busyish - but not too busy - time at a day jol, and ride into the parking area myself, park the bike, climb off, take my helmet off, pull out cane from inside my jacket, and walk up to entrance fee table - all of this just to hear the comments etc....LOL! Lastly, how does that one song go: ...open your eyes, and see me... We can break their assumption barriers, but we need to make sure we make a good impression (mental impression, not a physical one <smile>) Have also already had at least one guy come up to me while was dancing on main dance floor in front of band on stage at a bike rally, and tell me I just made him feel 'stupid' about ever having worried about having only one eye. Like always say, my one friend's saying is: live with it, deal with it Just that some of us swap it around a bit: deal with it, so you can live with it... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl de Campos To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:56 AM Subject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Radio SAFM interview on riding Thanks Jacob, appreciated. I tend to brag a bit or sound a bit too confident at times, but then I love my horse and what he does for me, I feel he's worth bragging about. But ja the idea is to make sighted public aware of the various activities blind people can do, especially if those activities are thought not to be blind friendly at all. Ps: When are we going to start a Blind Hells Biker group, as long as we have a few sighted bikers with extremely loud pipes to follow. Thanks / Regards Carl de Campos SQL DBA Business Connection for Edcon E-Mail: carldc@xxxxxxxxxx Cell: 078 750 0307 Skype: carl.de.campos Personal Web Site: http://carldc.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 20:14 Subject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Radio SAFM interview on riding Already downloaded and listened to it, and it came out nice - and Carl sounds good/confident - good to let sighted people hear about things of this nature. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl de Campos To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 7:40 PM Subject: [blindza] Fw: Radio SAFM interview on riding Hi list, if anyone's interested in hearing my chat on horse riding, on the Disability Report last night, I managed to link it via my web site. http://carldc.net Right-click on the SAFM Interview link and "Save Target AS", it's 5 MB. Thanks / Regards Carl de Campos ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacob Kruger To: Carl de Campos Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 19:01 Subject: Re: Radio SAFM interview on riding Came out nice etc. You're also welcome to post this to blindza etc. - obviously...<smile> Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5008 (20100407) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5008 (20100407) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5008 (20100407) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com