FWIW, I was actually over there in the UK in 2006 and came to see Hratch oGali from a place called the mind clinic there in London.
He literally does things like acupuncture, meditation, energy use etc. to stimulate nerve regeneration in physically disabled guys mostly, but also sometimes for guys like us.
Along the lines of this, in the month and a half that I was there, although before that I had literally seen nothing but gray in front of me, I now am always seeing vague shapes, but with no colours, no details, and if I, for example, turn my head, the move with it and then drift back. Also, he was at a stage testing me by putting different colour sunglasses on my face, and although I didn't actually see anything as such (in the normal sense), I was getting the colour right around 80% of the time.
Anyway, along the lines of this version of vision that he got going, a guy called a neuropthalmologist that side said it was basically just my brain now building virtual imagery based on what it already knew, or heard etc. etc., but there have been at least two incidents where I couldn't have known anything, but still 'saw' something.
The one was when walking down a corridor with someone, but they got distracted by something, and I literally took around another 5 steps since I thought I knew where I was, but suddenly saw a shape in front of me, and it was in fact a wall/doorway thing that I couldn't have known about in any way, and the more 'corny' one was sitting in a bar with a bit of background noise, and I put my cigarette lighter down on the left of my beer, but when I next wanted to light a smoke, I automatically picked it up on the right hand side before 'remembering' where I had actually left it. Now, the doctors would most likely say that I had heard someone putting it back down, but like I said, background noise, and my hearing aids don't do too well in that sort of environment, and I had literally seen a very vague shape where the lighter was now lying.
Anyway, along the lines of all this, I have in fact been to see another alternative person this side - someone who does a form of energy balancing therapy/meditation/healing process called Reiki where you lie on a table and they literally tell you to think about certain things while they do a form of meditative, energy stimulation therapy.
Anyway, this person reckons I have relatively high energy levels (which I was also told by Hratch), and that I'm implementing a form of intuitive vision.
That again has two sides in terms of where it might be almost a form of ESP or else more along the lines of what that neuropthalmologist was saying, and also what we're trying to implement using things like the vOICe - almost an alternative sensory perception as such.
Hope this all makes sense Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Chatten-Smith" <davechsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:24 PMSubject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Engineering advances paving way for artificial vision progress
Hi, me too, i have damadged optical nervers, but my eyes are totaly fine, i have read alot about this implant procress, but aprantly the surgen that carried out this procedure died in october 2006 [ debell], but as of todate noone has taken up on this wonder why?can i ask you, have you thought of alternitive medicen?Once again, i have read alot about this on the internet, about peopley claiming that herbs, accupunture etc can work, what are your views on that?DO you think that peopley like us, with optical nerve damadage will ever see something again?dave uk Fancy a *free party? Have a night out on us!" Now thats, what i call the 80's " a free party night raising funds for the blind and visually impaired in the community.Friday 30th May, Holiday inn hotel, grove road, basingstoke. Become a VIP for the night, log on to: www.blinkfundraising.co.uk for more details or mail me: davechsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx ** Pass it on, tell your friends **----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:25 PMSubject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Engineering advances paving way for artificial vision progressNot sure, but almost all the recent development seems to be specifically sending signals into the front of the optic nerve, and thereby just replacing the adctual physical eye - which is also, unfortunately no use to me since although my eyes are physically fine (although they apparently start to fail after a bit of non-use), my optic nerve is 100% blocked by scar tissue where it actually enters my brain, so, yes, I would need a form of brain implant to be sent a signal directly as such.I think there were guys looking into this for a bit, but haven't heard much recently.The only other relatively active aspect is forms of sensory perception where you try to train your brain to in fact interpret other senses like audio signals, signals sent to a tongue pad etc. etc. as visual cues or something.Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Chatten-Smith" <davechsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:45 PMSubject: [blindza] Re: Fw: Engineering advances paving way for artificial vision progressHello, am i right in saying that the debell instrute was doing something like this? Where they was inplanting the brain, so the implant would bypass the optical nerve? i have search all over the internet for answers and questions on this procedure ,but nothing solid as of yet/dave uk Fancy a *free party? Have a night out on us!" Now thats, what i call the 80's " a free party night raising funds for the blind and visually impaired in the community.Friday 30th May, Holiday inn hotel, grove road, basingstoke. Become a VIP for the night, log on to: www.blinkfundraising.co.uk for more details or mail me: davechsmith@xxxxxxxxxxx ** Pass it on, tell your friends **----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: "BlindZA" <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:21 AMSubject: [blindza] Fw: Engineering advances paving way for artificial vision progressReceived this from the SeeingWithSound mailing list (see below). Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...Fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'----- Original Message ----- Hi All,For your information. Appended is yesterday's news article on electronic retinal implants from the OSN SuperSite. Note that Optobionics went bankrupt last year. Best wishes, Peter Meijer Seeing with Sound - The vOICe http://www.seeingwithsound.com/winvoice.htm Engineering advances paving way for artificial vision progress. FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Advances in engineering may help usher in a new way to treat neural forms of blindness, according to a speaker here at the Association for Research in Vision and Ophthalmology meeting. Joseph F. Rizzo, MD, co-director of the Boston Retinal Implant Project and director of the Center for Innovative Visual Rehabilitation at the Boston VA Medical Center, highlighted four companies that had performed microelectronic retinal implants on human subjects. He said he was optimistic about the results. "The fact that you can plant these foreign materials in the eye and the eye seems to withstand it is something that all four groups demonstrated without question," Dr. Rizzo said in an interview with Ocular Surgery News after his presentation. "Overall there are very positive aspects of the results that need to be encouraged, but at the same time, I think there are hard engineering and biological problems." Optobionics was the first company to test one of these implants, Dr. Rizzo said. The three other companies currently conducting studies are Second Sight Medical Products, Intelligent Medical Implants AG and Retina Implants AG. The placing of the circuitry on the retina has been performed well, but the interface between the electrodes and the nerve cells still must be studied extensively, he said. Researchers also must figure out a way to hermetically encapsulate the implants to protect them from salt in the body. "We're going to have to learn how to stimulate the nerve tissue to create the kind of vision we want," Dr. Rizzo said. "There is still more work to be done with regard to biocompatibility to try and demonstrate more definitively that stimulation would be safe at these levels if delivered for a long time." Source URL: http://www.osnsupersite.com/view.asp?rID=27977 ----------To send a message to the list, send any message to blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx----------To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to blindza-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line--- The 'homepage' for this list is at http://www.blindza.co.za---------- To send a message to the list, send any message to blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to blindza-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line--- The 'homepage' for this list is at http://www.blindza.co.za---------- To send a message to the list, send any message to blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to blindza-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line--- The 'homepage' for this list is at http://www.blindza.co.za---------- To send a message to the list, send any message to blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to blindza-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line--- The 'homepage' for this list is at http://www.blindza.co.za
---------- To send a message to the list, send any message to blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------- To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to blindza-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject line --- The 'homepage' for this list is at http://www.blindza.co.za
