[blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

  • From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:42:21 +0200

Will check it out, and, yes, I use DSpeech to render afrikaans TTS into MP3 
etc. often enough using the eSpeak synth's etc.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) 
  To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:52 AM
  Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


  Well, NVDA is really the very best portable screen reader in the World, as it 
needs no video intercept drivers, like Jaws and all the others; it's really 
plug and play!  And, there is an Eloquence synth for NVDA; the one used with 
Jaws will not work with NVDA; NVDA has it's own.  Pity the server is down at 
this stage, but when it comes on again, you should check out the channel; NVDA 
TIPS AND TRICKS, at
  www.inclusiveplanet.com
   Also, NVDA works equally well on 32-bit systems as with 64-bit ones, while 
with Jaws, one needs the correct version for your system.  I also prefer the 
portable version, but if one installs NVDA with the Afrikaans synth, you will 
find a program under Program files / NVDA, called Af TTS, or something, which 
you can use to convert written text into wma or mp3, using any synth that you 
have installed on your computer, by simply pasting your text into a box and 
hitting convert....  Of course FS and all the others would wish you not to use 
Eloq; each thinks, or wants the world to believe it belongs only to them, so 
you can't buy Eloq, unless you buy their products, and, at what cost?☺      
And, remember Jaws 8?  Well, it had an extra CD in the box, with RealSpeak Solo 
on, and that works real well with NVDA...I think I posted an mp3 sample in the 
above mentioned channel.  We may all be so used to Jaws that we don't feel like 
trying out any other, but lately, Windows has moved off from accessibility, and 
it seems that open source programs like NVDA can really help us now.  This USB 
sound card thing you were referring to, plus a memory stick with NVDA portable 
on it, can surely be of much help to you when you suddenly are confronted with 
a speechless computer in, maybe a Cybre Cafe, or when you have to work on a 
sighted person's computer! 

  Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
    Sent: 16 February 2012 07:23 AM
    To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


    Partly, since I primarily use NVDA to either test certain things, or use it 
to specifically read afrikaans etc., with the eSpeak voices, but otherwise, I 
am running a relatively recent version of NVDA, so don't think that one would, 
off-hand work with jaws 13's eloquence synthesizer, but, main thing now is that 
while newish NVDA, I stick to only portable implementations thereof, so, 
simple, quick and easy since it's really only my secondary screen reader - but, 
yes, have all the respect in the world for it...<smile>

    Stay well

    Jacob Kruger
    Blind Biker
    Skype: BlindZA
    '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) 
      To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:47 AM
      Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


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      So, here's another dum question for you; why don't you use Eloquence with 
NVDA? And yes, 40 with NVDA is fine, while 40 percent with Jaws is also fine 
with most people.  I have done this before, and at even higher speeds, 
everybody liked it.  

      Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
      WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL 
      Tel:              0123199735 
      Mobile:           0829699571 
      Fax:              0123277076 
      Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002 
      E-mail: 
      Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
      WEB; 
      www.inclusiveplanet.com 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dewald van Deventer
        Sent: 15 February 2012 04:45 PM
        To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


        Hi Jacob. I think between Voice rate of about 68 "25 percent" and about 
73 "30 percent". would be the best. 

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Jacob Kruger 
          To: NAPSA Blind ; BlindZA 
          Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:51 PM
          Subject: [blindza] Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


          Just wondering, if I record some or other audio tutorial/walkthrough, 
including my screen reader's output, what would a good/suitable/average TTS 
voice speed be - for example, I myself keep jaws set to it's speed of 
roundabout 105, and NVDA to like 40, since it's my sort of secondary screen 
reader, and I'm not as used to hearing the eSpeak synthesizer.

          On the other hand, I myself get told I talk too fast when it comes to 
explaining technical information, etc. to various people, but anyway...

          What it comes down to is just wondering, for something like/similar 
to a tutorial/demonstrative podcast, etc., what type of speed do you guys 
reckon it would be best to stick to, and I suppose, the speed actually comes 
down to something like words per minute/second - and just tested it and seems 
like NVDA is running roundabout 8 words per second at the moment, but anyway...

          Thoughts?

          This is all partly related to why I have been looking into sorting 
out recording PC output, and then mixing it with spoken audio as well, but will 
leave it at that for now...<smile>

          Stay well

          Jacob Kruger
          Blind Biker
          Skype: BlindZA
          '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'




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