[blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

Hi, yes. That's a great idea!
The new NVDA, with the shortcut on the desktop, i just press alt +control +"N", 
which is automatically done for you when you install it. I didn't have to go 
and create the shortcut. 

I will create a dropbox folder for us, if you want. 

Dewald.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) 
  To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:27 AM
  Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


  Yeh, the RealSpeak voices really are cool, especially Daniel, Tom, Karen and 
Lee.  Unfortunately, they feel a bit slower to me, so I prefer Eloq  Yes, I do 
have it here somewhere, or I could copy it out of my NVDA, but I have problems 
with file sharing these days....  As for auto starting NVDA, I have tried that 
one also,but have had little success with it, as I use many computers, and I 
would wish it to work for all of them.  What I usually simply do, is to put the 
nvda archive on a memory stick, create a shortcut for nvda.exe [which is the 
start file for NVDA], AND PUT THIS SHORTCUT NEXT TO THE ARCHIVE.  I CALL THE 
SHORTCAT "go", so when I insert the stick, I wait a bit, press O to open using 
windows explorer,etc., and then I simply hit G and enter.[of course I make sure 
there's no other file or folder called by a name starting with G.]  On most of 
my computers, I copy the NVDA archive into the Program Files, make a shortcut 
to nvda.exe, and put this shortcut on my Start Menu.  Then, all I have to do to 
start it up, without having to close or minimise anything I am busy with, is to 
press Start Menu, followed by N, and NVDA starts up.  To shut NVDA off, I 
simply press Insert + Q.  Our IP server has been off now for a few days, for 
maintenance, and I hope it comes back on soon.   

  Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
  WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL 
  Tel:              0123199735 
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf Of Dewald van Deventer
    Sent: 16 February 2012 09:51 AM
    To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs T  TS speed


    Hi guys. This is so cool!
    Any idea when the server will be on again?
    Deon, don't you have a backup file for me which i could download?

    Must say, the Neospeach voices sounds quite cool with NVDA. 

    In the NVDA user guide there is an article about how to make the NVDA on a 
memory stick speak automatically when you plug it in. 
    Just put an Autorun.inf file in there which you can download from the page. 

    It says that, after you have plugged in the stick with NVDA on, and press 
enter, it ought to start speaking automatically. 
    But you must have autoplay enabled. 

    I tried this, but the first thing in my autoplay list, is "play with 
Windows Mediaplayer", which obviously plays all NVDA's sounds. 

    Help?

    Here's what is written in the autorun.inf file:

    [AutoRun]
    open=nvda\nvda.exe
    action=Start NVDA
    icon=nvda\nvda.exe
    shell\NVDA="Start NVDA"
    shell\NVDA\command=nvda\nvda.exe
    shell=NVDA

    Thanks,
    Dewald. 

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) 
      To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:52 AM
      Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


      Well, NVDA is really the very best portable screen reader in the World, 
as it needs no video intercept drivers, like Jaws and all the others; it's 
really plug and play!  And, there is an Eloquence synth for NVDA; the one used 
with Jaws will not work with NVDA; NVDA has it's own.  Pity the server is down 
at this stage, but when it comes on again, you should check out the channel; 
NVDA TIPS AND TRICKS, at
      www.inclusiveplanet.com
       Also, NVDA works equally well on 32-bit systems as with 64-bit ones, 
while with Jaws, one needs the correct version for your system.  I also prefer 
the portable version, but if one installs NVDA with the Afrikaans synth, you 
will find a program under Program files / NVDA, called Af TTS, or something, 
which you can use to convert written text into wma or mp3, using any synth that 
you have installed on your computer, by simply pasting your text into a box and 
hitting convert....  Of course FS and all the others would wish you not to use 
Eloq; each thinks, or wants the world to believe it belongs only to them, so 
you can't buy Eloq, unless you buy their products, and, at what cost?☺      
And, remember Jaws 8?  Well, it had an extra CD in the box, with RealSpeak Solo 
on, and that works real well with NVDA...I think I posted an mp3 sample in the 
above mentioned channel.  We may all be so used to Jaws that we don't feel like 
trying out any other, but lately, Windows has moved off from accessibility, and 
it seems that open source programs like NVDA can really help us now.  This USB 
sound card thing you were referring to, plus a memory stick with NVDA portable 
on it, can surely be of much help to you when you suddenly are confronted with 
a speechless computer in, maybe a Cybre Cafe, or when you have to work on a 
sighted person's computer! 

      Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
      WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL 
      Tel:              0123199735 
      Mobile:           0829699571 
      Fax:              0123277076 
      Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002 
      E-mail: 
      Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
      WEB; 
      www.inclusiveplanet.com 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
        Sent: 16 February 2012 07:23 AM
        To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


        Partly, since I primarily use NVDA to either test certain things, or 
use it to specifically read afrikaans etc., with the eSpeak voices, but 
otherwise, I am running a relatively recent version of NVDA, so don't think 
that one would, off-hand work with jaws 13's eloquence synthesizer, but, main 
thing now is that while newish NVDA, I stick to only portable implementations 
thereof, so, simple, quick and easy since it's really only my secondary screen 
reader - but, yes, have all the respect in the world for it...<smile>

        Stay well

        Jacob Kruger
        Blind Biker
        Skype: BlindZA
        '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) 
          To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:47 AM
          Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


          UID09duf63i2bd 


          So, here's another dum question for you; why don't you use Eloquence 
with NVDA? And yes, 40 with NVDA is fine, while 40 percent with Jaws is also 
fine with most people.  I have done this before, and at even higher speeds, 
everybody liked it.  

          Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
          WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL 
          Tel:              0123199735 
          Mobile:           0829699571 
          Fax:              0123277076 
          Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002 
          E-mail: 
          Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
          WEB; 
          www.inclusiveplanet.com 

            -----Original Message-----
            From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dewald van Deventer
            Sent: 15 February 2012 04:45 PM
            To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


            Hi Jacob. I think between Voice rate of about 68 "25 percent" and 
about 73 "30 percent". would be the best. 

              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Jacob Kruger 
              To: NAPSA Blind ; BlindZA 
              Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:51 PM
              Subject: [blindza] Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


              Just wondering, if I record some or other audio 
tutorial/walkthrough, including my screen reader's output, what would a 
good/suitable/average TTS voice speed be - for example, I myself keep jaws set 
to it's speed of roundabout 105, and NVDA to like 40, since it's my sort of 
secondary screen reader, and I'm not as used to hearing the eSpeak synthesizer.

              On the other hand, I myself get told I talk too fast when it 
comes to explaining technical information, etc. to various people, but anyway...

              What it comes down to is just wondering, for something 
like/similar to a tutorial/demonstrative podcast, etc., what type of speed do 
you guys reckon it would be best to stick to, and I suppose, the speed actually 
comes down to something like words per minute/second - and just tested it and 
seems like NVDA is running roundabout 8 words per second at the moment, but 
anyway...

              Thoughts?

              This is all partly related to why I have been looking into 
sorting out recording PC output, and then mixing it with spoken audio as well, 
but will leave it at that for now...<smile>

              Stay well

              Jacob Kruger
              Blind Biker
              Skype: BlindZA
              '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'




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