[blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
- From: "Dewald van Deventer" <dewaldvandeventer@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:40:28 +0200
Hi, yes. That's a great idea!
The new NVDA, with the shortcut on the desktop, i just press alt +control +"N",
which is automatically done for you when you install it. I didn't have to go
and create the shortcut.
I will create a dropbox folder for us, if you want.
Dewald.
----- Original Message -----
From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health)
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Yeh, the RealSpeak voices really are cool, especially Daniel, Tom, Karen and
Lee. Unfortunately, they feel a bit slower to me, so I prefer Eloq Yes, I do
have it here somewhere, or I could copy it out of my NVDA, but I have problems
with file sharing these days.... As for auto starting NVDA, I have tried that
one also,but have had little success with it, as I use many computers, and I
would wish it to work for all of them. What I usually simply do, is to put the
nvda archive on a memory stick, create a shortcut for nvda.exe [which is the
start file for NVDA], AND PUT THIS SHORTCUT NEXT TO THE ARCHIVE. I CALL THE
SHORTCAT "go", so when I insert the stick, I wait a bit, press O to open using
windows explorer,etc., and then I simply hit G and enter.[of course I make sure
there's no other file or folder called by a name starting with G.] On most of
my computers, I copy the NVDA archive into the Program Files, make a shortcut
to nvda.exe, and put this shortcut on my Start Menu. Then, all I have to do to
start it up, without having to close or minimise anything I am busy with, is to
press Start Menu, followed by N, and NVDA starts up. To shut NVDA off, I
simply press Insert + Q. Our IP server has been off now for a few days, for
maintenance, and I hope it comes back on soon.
Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch]
WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL
Tel: 0123199735
Mobile: 0829699571
Fax: 0123277076
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Dewald van Deventer
Sent: 16 February 2012 09:51 AM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs T TS speed
Hi guys. This is so cool!
Any idea when the server will be on again?
Deon, don't you have a backup file for me which i could download?
Must say, the Neospeach voices sounds quite cool with NVDA.
In the NVDA user guide there is an article about how to make the NVDA on a
memory stick speak automatically when you plug it in.
Just put an Autorun.inf file in there which you can download from the page.
It says that, after you have plugged in the stick with NVDA on, and press
enter, it ought to start speaking automatically.
But you must have autoplay enabled.
I tried this, but the first thing in my autoplay list, is "play with
Windows Mediaplayer", which obviously plays all NVDA's sounds.
Help?
Here's what is written in the autorun.inf file:
[AutoRun]
open=nvda\nvda.exe
action=Start NVDA
icon=nvda\nvda.exe
shell\NVDA="Start NVDA"
shell\NVDA\command=nvda\nvda.exe
shell=NVDA
Thanks,
Dewald.
----- Original Message -----
From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health)
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:52 AM
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Well, NVDA is really the very best portable screen reader in the World,
as it needs no video intercept drivers, like Jaws and all the others; it's
really plug and play! And, there is an Eloquence synth for NVDA; the one used
with Jaws will not work with NVDA; NVDA has it's own. Pity the server is down
at this stage, but when it comes on again, you should check out the channel;
NVDA TIPS AND TRICKS, at
www.inclusiveplanet.com
Also, NVDA works equally well on 32-bit systems as with 64-bit ones,
while with Jaws, one needs the correct version for your system. I also prefer
the portable version, but if one installs NVDA with the Afrikaans synth, you
will find a program under Program files / NVDA, called Af TTS, or something,
which you can use to convert written text into wma or mp3, using any synth that
you have installed on your computer, by simply pasting your text into a box and
hitting convert.... Of course FS and all the others would wish you not to use
Eloq; each thinks, or wants the world to believe it belongs only to them, so
you can't buy Eloq, unless you buy their products, and, at what cost?☺
And, remember Jaws 8? Well, it had an extra CD in the box, with RealSpeak Solo
on, and that works real well with NVDA...I think I posted an mp3 sample in the
above mentioned channel. We may all be so used to Jaws that we don't feel like
trying out any other, but lately, Windows has moved off from accessibility, and
it seems that open source programs like NVDA can really help us now. This USB
sound card thing you were referring to, plus a memory stick with NVDA portable
on it, can surely be of much help to you when you suddenly are confronted with
a speechless computer in, maybe a Cybre Cafe, or when you have to work on a
sighted person's computer!
Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch]
WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL
Tel: 0123199735
Mobile: 0829699571
Fax: 0123277076
Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002
E-mail:
Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
WEB;
www.inclusiveplanet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 16 February 2012 07:23 AM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Partly, since I primarily use NVDA to either test certain things, or
use it to specifically read afrikaans etc., with the eSpeak voices, but
otherwise, I am running a relatively recent version of NVDA, so don't think
that one would, off-hand work with jaws 13's eloquence synthesizer, but, main
thing now is that while newish NVDA, I stick to only portable implementations
thereof, so, simple, quick and easy since it's really only my secondary screen
reader - but, yes, have all the respect in the world for it...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health)
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:47 AM
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
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So, here's another dum question for you; why don't you use Eloquence
with NVDA? And yes, 40 with NVDA is fine, while 40 percent with Jaws is also
fine with most people. I have done this before, and at even higher speeds,
everybody liked it.
Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch]
WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL
Tel: 0123199735
Mobile: 0829699571
Fax: 0123277076
Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002
E-mail:
Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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-----Original Message-----
From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dewald van Deventer
Sent: 15 February 2012 04:45 PM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Hi Jacob. I think between Voice rate of about 68 "25 percent" and
about 73 "30 percent". would be the best.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger
To: NAPSA Blind ; BlindZA
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: [blindza] Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Just wondering, if I record some or other audio
tutorial/walkthrough, including my screen reader's output, what would a
good/suitable/average TTS voice speed be - for example, I myself keep jaws set
to it's speed of roundabout 105, and NVDA to like 40, since it's my sort of
secondary screen reader, and I'm not as used to hearing the eSpeak synthesizer.
On the other hand, I myself get told I talk too fast when it
comes to explaining technical information, etc. to various people, but anyway...
What it comes down to is just wondering, for something
like/similar to a tutorial/demonstrative podcast, etc., what type of speed do
you guys reckon it would be best to stick to, and I suppose, the speed actually
comes down to something like words per minute/second - and just tested it and
seems like NVDA is running roundabout 8 words per second at the moment, but
anyway...
Thoughts?
This is all partly related to why I have been looking into
sorting out recording PC output, and then mixing it with spoken audio as well,
but will leave it at that for now...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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