[blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

  • From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:21:36 +0200

Closest have come in past to finding a realSpeak afrikaans voice was when had 
gotten hold of flemish realSpeak voice, since it's close enough to read 
Afrikaans sometimes, but not always.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) 
  To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:57 AM
  Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


  Can't remember which version of RealSpeak it was, but it was the one that 
came with Jaws 8.  I don't use it any more, so I might even have a hard time to 
find it amongst all my others...☺ It's quite a large thing, and has many 
English/Spanish voices, even two or so nice Australian voices.  Wish it had a 
good Afrikaans, but with Afrikaans, NVDA is still tops!   

  Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
  WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL 
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
    Sent: 16 February 2012 08:44 AM
    To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


    Which version of realSpeak do you have installed?

    The extra CD I got along with like jaws 8 or 9 would install the realSpeak 
voices available to other software, but the latest ones you download off FS 
website only work within jaws etc. itself.

    STay well

    Jacob Kruger
    Blind Biker
    Skype: BlindZA
    '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Carel Ewald 
      To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:54 AM
      Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed


      Deon,

       

      Take me through how to select realspeak with NVDA. It is not shown under 
my list of synthesizers.

       

      Thanks,

       

      Carel Ewald

      +27 83 463 4023

       

      From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) [mailto:Deon.Boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
      Sent: 16 February 2012 07:52 AM
      To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

       

      Well, NVDA is really the very best portable screen reader in the World, 
as it needs no video intercept drivers, like Jaws and all the others; it's 
really plug and play!  And, there is an Eloquence synth for NVDA; the one used 
with Jaws will not work with NVDA; NVDA has it's own.  Pity the server is down 
at this stage, but when it comes on again, you should check out the channel; 
NVDA TIPS AND TRICKS, at

      www.inclusiveplanet.com

       Also, NVDA works equally well on 32-bit systems as with 64-bit ones, 
while with Jaws, one needs the correct version for your system.  I also prefer 
the portable version, but if one installs NVDA with the Afrikaans synth, you 
will find a program under Program files / NVDA, called Af TTS, or something, 
which you can use to convert written text into wma or mp3, using any synth that 
you have installed on your computer, by simply pasting your text into a box and 
hitting convert....  Of course FS and all the others would wish you not to use 
Eloq; each thinks, or wants the world to believe it belongs only to them, so 
you can't buy Eloq, unless you buy their products, and, at what cost?☺      
And, remember Jaws 8?  Well, it had an extra CD in the box, with RealSpeak Solo 
on, and that works real well with NVDA...I think I posted an mp3 sample in the 
above mentioned channel.  We may all be so used to Jaws that we don't feel like 
trying out any other, but lately, Windows has moved off from accessibility, and 
it seems that open source programs like NVDA can really help us now.  This USB 
sound card thing you were referring to, plus a memory stick with NVDA portable 
on it, can surely be of much help to you when you suddenly are confronted with 
a speechless computer in, maybe a Cybre Cafe, or when you have to work on a 
sighted person's computer! 

       

      Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
      WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL 
      Tel:              0123199735 
      Mobile:           0829699571 
      Fax:              0123277076 
      Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002 
      E-mail: 
      Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
      WEB; 
      www.inclusiveplanet.com 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
        Sent: 16 February 2012 07:23 AM
        To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

        Partly, since I primarily use NVDA to either test certain things, or 
use it to specifically read afrikaans etc., with the eSpeak voices, but 
otherwise, I am running a relatively recent version of NVDA, so don't think 
that one would, off-hand work with jaws 13's eloquence synthesizer, but, main 
thing now is that while newish NVDA, I stick to only portable implementations 
thereof, so, simple, quick and easy since it's really only my secondary screen 
reader - but, yes, have all the respect in the world for it...<smile>

         

        Stay well


        Jacob Kruger
        Blind Biker
        Skype: BlindZA
        '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) 

          To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

          Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:47 AM

          Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

           

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          So, here's another dum question for you; why don't you use Eloquence 
with NVDA? And yes, 40 with NVDA is fine, while 40 percent with Jaws is also 
fine with most people.  I have done this before, and at even higher speeds, 
everybody liked it.  

           

          Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch] 
          WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL 
          Tel:              0123199735 
          Mobile:           0829699571 
          Fax:              0123277076 
          Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002 
          E-mail: 
          Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
          WEB; 
          www.inclusiveplanet.com 

            -----Original Message-----
            From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dewald van Deventer
            Sent: 15 February 2012 04:45 PM
            To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
            Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

            Hi Jacob. I think between Voice rate of about 68 "25 percent" and 
about 73 "30 percent". would be the best. 

             

              ----- Original Message ----- 

              From: Jacob Kruger 

              To: NAPSA Blind ; BlindZA 

              Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:51 PM

              Subject: [blindza] Dumb question relating to recorded audio 
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed

               

              Just wondering, if I record some or other audio 
tutorial/walkthrough, including my screen reader's output, what would a 
good/suitable/average TTS voice speed be - for example, I myself keep jaws set 
to it's speed of roundabout 105, and NVDA to like 40, since it's my sort of 
secondary screen reader, and I'm not as used to hearing the eSpeak synthesizer.

               

              On the other hand, I myself get told I talk too fast when it 
comes to explaining technical information, etc. to various people, but anyway...

               

              What it comes down to is just wondering, for something 
like/similar to a tutorial/demonstrative podcast, etc., what type of speed do 
you guys reckon it would be best to stick to, and I suppose, the speed actually 
comes down to something like words per minute/second - and just tested it and 
seems like NVDA is running roundabout 8 words per second at the moment, but 
anyway...

               

              Thoughts?

               

              This is all partly related to why I have been looking into 
sorting out recording PC output, and then mixing it with spoken audio as well, 
but will leave it at that for now...<smile>

               

              Stay well


              Jacob Kruger
              Blind Biker
              Skype: BlindZA
              '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

             


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