[blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
- From: "Carel Ewald" <cewald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:13:22 +0200
Got scansoft tom working on NVDA now. Much better then e-speak. On the tech
tips last week there was a cross platform type program which allows one to use
much more voices with NVDA.
Running on that now.
Thanks,
Carel Ewald
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From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) [mailto:Deon.Boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 February 2012 08:58 AM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Can't remember which version of RealSpeak it was, but it was the one that came
with Jaws 8. I don't use it any more, so I might even have a hard time to find
it amongst all my others...☺ It's quite a large thing, and has many
English/Spanish voices, even two or so nice Australian voices. Wish it had a
good Afrikaans, but with Afrikaans, NVDA is still tops!
Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch]
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From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 16 February 2012 08:44 AM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Which version of realSpeak do you have installed?
The extra CD I got along with like jaws 8 or 9 would install the realSpeak
voices available to other software, but the latest ones you download off FS
website only work within jaws etc. itself.
STay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Carel Ewald <mailto:cewald@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:54 AM
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Deon,
Take me through how to select realspeak with NVDA. It is not shown under my
list of synthesizers.
Thanks,
Carel Ewald
+27 83 463 4023
From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) [mailto:Deon.Boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 16 February 2012 07:52 AM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Well, NVDA is really the very best portable screen reader in the World, as it
needs no video intercept drivers, like Jaws and all the others; it's really
plug and play! And, there is an Eloquence synth for NVDA; the one used with
Jaws will not work with NVDA; NVDA has it's own. Pity the server is down at
this stage, but when it comes on again, you should check out the channel; NVDA
TIPS AND TRICKS, at
www.inclusiveplanet.com
Also, NVDA works equally well on 32-bit systems as with 64-bit ones, while
with Jaws, one needs the correct version for your system. I also prefer the
portable version, but if one installs NVDA with the Afrikaans synth, you will
find a program under Program files / NVDA, called Af TTS, or something, which
you can use to convert written text into wma or mp3, using any synth that you
have installed on your computer, by simply pasting your text into a box and
hitting convert.... Of course FS and all the others would wish you not to use
Eloq; each thinks, or wants the world to believe it belongs only to them, so
you can't buy Eloq, unless you buy their products, and, at what cost?☺
And, remember Jaws 8? Well, it had an extra CD in the box, with RealSpeak Solo
on, and that works real well with NVDA...I think I posted an mp3 sample in the
above mentioned channel. We may all be so used to Jaws that we don't feel like
trying out any other, but lately, Windows has moved off from accessibility, and
it seems that open source programs like NVDA can really help us now. This USB
sound card thing you were referring to, plus a memory stick with NVDA portable
on it, can surely be of much help to you when you suddenly are confronted with
a speechless computer in, maybe a Cybre Cafe, or when you have to work on a
sighted person's computer!
Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch]
WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL
Tel: 0123199735
Mobile: 0829699571
Fax: 0123277076
Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002
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Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 16 February 2012 07:23 AM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Partly, since I primarily use NVDA to either test certain things, or use it to
specifically read afrikaans etc., with the eSpeak voices, but otherwise, I am
running a relatively recent version of NVDA, so don't think that one would,
off-hand work with jaws 13's eloquence synthesizer, but, main thing now is that
while newish NVDA, I stick to only portable implementations thereof, so,
simple, quick and easy since it's really only my secondary screen reader - but,
yes, have all the respect in the world for it...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: Boshoff, Deon (GP Health) <mailto:Deon.Boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:47 AM
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
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So, here's another dum question for you; why don't you use Eloquence with NVDA?
And yes, 40 with NVDA is fine, while 40 percent with Jaws is also fine with
most people. I have done this before, and at even higher speeds, everybody
liked it.
Deon [G. Boshoff, BA[Stell]UDC[Potch]
WESKOPPIES HOSPITAL
Tel: 0123199735
Mobile: 0829699571
Fax: 0123277076
Bleeper: 0123199820, code 0002
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Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Deon.boshoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindza-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Dewald van Deventer
Sent: 15 February 2012 04:45 PM
To: blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blindza] Re: Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Hi Jacob. I think between Voice rate of about 68 "25 percent" and about 73 "30
percent". would be the best.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger <mailto:jacobk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: NAPSA Blind <mailto:blind@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; BlindZA
<mailto:blindza@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: [blindza] Dumb question relating to recorded audio
tutorials/walkthroughs TTS speed
Just wondering, if I record some or other audio tutorial/walkthrough, including
my screen reader's output, what would a good/suitable/average TTS voice speed
be - for example, I myself keep jaws set to it's speed of roundabout 105, and
NVDA to like 40, since it's my sort of secondary screen reader, and I'm not as
used to hearing the eSpeak synthesizer.
On the other hand, I myself get told I talk too fast when it comes to
explaining technical information, etc. to various people, but anyway...
What it comes down to is just wondering, for something like/similar to a
tutorial/demonstrative podcast, etc., what type of speed do you guys reckon it
would be best to stick to, and I suppose, the speed actually comes down to
something like words per minute/second - and just tested it and seems like NVDA
is running roundabout 8 words per second at the moment, but anyway...
Thoughts?
This is all partly related to why I have been looking into sorting out
recording PC output, and then mixing it with spoken audio as well, but will
leave it at that for now...<smile>
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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