[blindreplay] Re: Window-Eyes & dialog box tabs
- From: "Petro T. Giannakopoulos" <petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
Rick
Thank you very much. I understand it very well now. Time to practice this. May
do a podcast on Replay Music 3.35 settings using Window-Eyes like I did for
JAWS users.
--- On Sat, 4/19/08, Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Window-Eyes & dialog box tabs
> To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, April 19, 2008, 10:46 AM
> Petro,
>
> To start off with, use the numpad keys without the insert
> key.
>
> 8 is up one line
> 2 is down one line
> 4 is left 1 char
> 6 is right 1 char
> 5 is read current line
> 7 is move mouse pointer to top left of window
> 9 is move mouse to top right of window
> 1 is move mouse to bottom left
> 3 is move mouse to bottom right
>
> Adding the insert key to 4 and 6 will move the mouse left
> and right by word.
> The slash key which is above the 8 key does a left click
> and the star key
> which is above the 9 will do a right click.
>
> There are several other key combinations that can give you
> finer control,
> but that should get you started and give you some basic but
> necessary
> navigation with the mouse. Remember that with Window Eyes,
> the pc cursor
> and the mouse cursor are both active. There is no having
> to switch modes to
> operate either of those cursors.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
> rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Petro T.
> Giannakopoulos
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:52 AM
> To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Window-Eyes & dialog box
> tabs
>
> Rick
> You said with Window-Eyes you use the numpad to control the
> mouse cursor.
> Like insert with 4, or 6, 8, 2 keys? or just use 4, 6, 8, 2
> keys to navigate
> the mouse cursor around the screen? I want to be sure I do
> it right. I am on
> chapter 3 in WE tutorials. I will learn it eventually.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 4/19/08, Rick Alfaro
> <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Window-Eyes & dialog
> box tabs
> > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Saturday, April 19, 2008, 8:48 AM
> > Petro,
> >
> > I see what you mean now about hidden tabs. Yes, from
> time
> > to time I have
> > run across programs where one can not actually tab
> into the
> > tab controls.
> > When such a case arises, you have to use your mouse
> cursor
> > to find the tab
> > controls, and left click on the tab you want. You
> control
> > the mouse cursor
> > with the numpad on your keyboard.
> >
> > Unfortunately, WE does not read the name of the tab
> you are
> > in when issuing
> > the read window title command. I think this is a
> great
> > idea though.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> >
> > Rick Alfaro
> > rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Petro T.
> > Giannakopoulos
> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:47 AM
> > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Window-Eyes & dialog
> box
> > tabs
> >
> > Hi Rick
> > Thank you. Misunderstanding here. I said for example
> > purposes (imagine) that
> > the tabs like: basic, recording, schedule, output were
> not
> > read and hidden
> > under normal screen reader conditions how do you use
> > Window-Eyes 6.1 to
> > locate/navigate to find the hidden tabs within a
> dialog
> > box? I know the ctrl
> > - tab jumps one to each individual tab/page when
> pressed.
> >
> > See I have this program where the tabs are not read
> when
> > using Window-Eyes.
> > ctrl - tab does jump me to each tab's property
> sheet
> > and controls.
> >
> > But I do not hear the actual tab I am in. Does
> Window-Eyes
> > read title bar
> > command tell the user the tab he is in with ctrl -
> shift -
> > t? JAWS tells me
> > the dialog box name and tab I am in when pressing
> title
> > command.
> >
> > What do you know about hearing 'custom' on the
> > dialog screen when using
> > Window-Eyes and the insert - r key?
> >
> > Thank you for the title bar command.
> >
> > Petro
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 4/18/08, Rick Alfaro
> > <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Window-Eyes &
> dialog
> > box tabs
> > > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Friday, April 18, 2008, 7:50 PM
> > > Petro,
> > >
> > > Not sure what you mean by hidden tabs. If I go
> into
> > the
> > > properties for a
> > > scheduled recording for example, none of those
> tabs
> > are
> > > hidden. Usually,
> > > you can shift tab to get to the tab controls and
> then
> > right
> > > or left arrow to
> > > go across the tabs until you get to the one you
> want.
> > > Another way is the
> > > Windows shortcut key to switch tabs which is
> control
> > tab.
> > >
> > > To read the title of a window, use shift control
> t.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Warmest regards,
> > >
> > > Rick Alfaro
> > > rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
> > > Petro T.
> > > Giannakopoulos
> > > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:10 PM
> > > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [blindreplay] Window-Eyes & dialog
> box
> > tabs
> > >
> > > Can someone who uses Window-Eyes write me offlist
> and
> > tell
> > > me how to use it
> > > to locate hidden tabs within a dialog box screen?
> For
> > > example purposes only
> > > say the Replay AV properties dialog box tabs were
> not
> > read
> > > like: basic,
> > > recording, schedule tabs. I know how to do this
> with
> > JAWS
> > > but not with
> > > Window-Eyes 6.1. What keys to press. How do you
> read
> > the
> > > title bar of a
> > > dialog box or window?
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