[blindreplay] Re: Testers needed with Applian Paypal Order form
- From: <petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:23:50 -0800 (PST)
Hi Rick
I sure hope Leslie is forwarding all this to the webmaster. Oh
my. Looks like Window Eyes wins here. With Windows Eyes you are
able to find this Buy with Paypal button in alternate cursor
mode and left click it. You hear the Buy with Paypal text in
that mode. With JAWS 9 I cannot find the "Buy with Paypal"
button "text when in route jaws to virtual cursor mode. I made
sure the browser was maximized. The button is invisible in that
mode. I also tried the invisible cursor mode too with no luck.
By now no one is reading this. But wait... Using my experience
with the YouSendIt plug in issue I figured it out!!! But others
are not going to find out how to do it.
1. Route jaws to virtual cursor
2. Use navigation keyboard keys to locate the text "click to pay
with Paypal:"
3. Place cursor on the ":" on that text in step #2
4. Press right arrow key 3 times to move over 3 spaces over from
the ":"
The reason is the "Buy With Paypal button is invisible. It's an
image anyway.
5. Jaws left mouse click on that invisible spot.
I am now taken to the Paypal page at:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=htczFuCJztUycVh2CbXW23pHJnnZA3N8gbAEp9mL9UMacVMeRlA9bsB4aj4&dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f3893a48c4ade7e5f0b07bad3416f38800131c8a42c7569b8
The link maybe broken.
The link may become invalid. Expires and secure type.
Oh my goodness. Looks like I will put it in my blog. Not sure if
anyone reads it though.
Thank you.
Petro
--- Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> This buy with paypal button is very odd if you are looking at
> it within your
> virtual buffer. If I go to this button with Window Eyes in
> browse mode
> (same as virtual cursor in JFW), hitting space or enter on the
> button has
> the behavior we have already been discussing here. If you
> turn browse mode
> off and tab until you get to that button and hit space or
> enter on it, you
> get the same results. If you turn browse mode off and tab to
> the button and
> then route your mouse cursor to the button and left click, the
> redirection
> to paypal works properly. This is how it is working for me
> with Window Eyes
> and Firefox. If you turn off your virtual cursor in JFW and
> tab until you
> get to the buy with paypal button and rout pc to jaws, does it
> then work
> properly for you?
>
> It is just an oddity that I noticed while testing the page and
> perhaps a
> work around, but it really should work as any other buttons do
> on other web
> pages. I'm glad they are working on it, because most folks
> won't know this
> work around unless they are geeks like you and I. (grin)
>
>
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Rick Alfaro
> rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:44 PM
> To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Testers needed with Applian Paypal
> Order form
>
> You are correct. I tried to do a JAWS left mouse click on this
> Pay With Paypal button but it does not work. The webmaster
> tells
> me this button when clicked with the mouse works for sighted
> users and is javascript.
>
> This is the dialog box Rick sees below. I copied the text to
> give you an example.
>
> Windows Internet Explorer
> Please enter a credit card number
> OK
>
>
>
> Other times it may asks for other info besides the credit card
> number.
>
> --- Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Leslie,
> >
> > When I click on the buy with paypal button, what I get is a
> > dialog box, and
> > not really a different page. It is a dialog that says, "The
> > page at
> > https://applien.securieies (don't have the complete url
> shown
> > there) says
> > you must enter a credit card number." And then there is an
> ok
> > button.
> >
> > I am not being redirected to paypal at all. It is a script
> or
> > something
> > that is not allowing me to be redirected to paypal because
> it
> > is checking
> > for empty fields in the form below. I did not try filling
> in
> > all the fields
> > because I didn't want to give any credit card info. I'm no
> > programmer for
> > sure, but once the buy with paypal button has been clicked,
> in
> > my opinion,
> > there should be no checking done for empty fields in the
> form.
> > It seems
> > that one should be immediately redirected to paypal so that
> > one can log in
> > or create a new account and the only info that should be
> > passed on with the
> > redirection is of course the actual purchase info and
> whatever
> > else paypal
> > would need to process the purchase. Stuff like name and
> > address and credit
> > card info is already on file with Paypal once you log in, or
> > create your new
> > account.
> >
> > Like I said, I am not a programmer, but hopefully, you
> > understand what I am
> > trying to say.
> >
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> >
> > Rick Alfaro
> > rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Leslie
> > Bee
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:01 PM
> > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Testers needed with Applian
> Paypal
> > Order form
> >
> > Hey Rick -
> > Can I ask you a question? After you click on the buy with
> > paypal button, and
> > you are taken to the page where you are told to enter all
> the
> > rest of the
> > info -is there a way for you to check to see if there is
> also
> > a Paypal login
> > field on the right hand side of the page? The way Paypal
> has
> > set up that
> > page the left side has login info for people who DON't
> already
> > have paypal
> > accouns and then on the right hand side of the page is a
> field
> > for existing
> > paypal holders to just enter their paypal login info. Can
> you
> > let me know
> > if it is there for you?
> >
> > In the meantime we have found that we have an issue with how
> > some of the
> > script is written for these buttons so we are working on
> > fixing our issues -
> > but paypal is convinced that their stuff is all okay.
> >
> > Thanks mucho,
> > Leslie
> > From Applian
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick
> > Alfaro
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:55 AM
> > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Testers needed with Applian
> Paypal
> > Order form
> >
> > Petro,
> >
> > I see what is going on now. If I click on the buy with
> paypal
> > button, I am
> > told that I have to enter in all of the rest of the info as
> if
> > I were going
> > to submit the order through them and not Paypal, including
> the
> > credit card
> > info, and I am returned to the order form. This defeats the
> > whole purpose
> > of using PayPal to begin with. If one clicks on the buy
> with
> > paypal button,
> > one should be able to be taken right to the paypal site so
> > that one can
> > either log into one's paypal account, or create a new
> account.
> > One should
> > not have to enter any of our credit card info, or any of the
> > other info for
> > that matter if one is paying with paypal as all of that
> stuff
> > is
> > automatically sent to the vendor when the payment is made
> with
> > paypal.
> >
> > This sure doesn't seem like a screen reader issue to me,
> more
> > of a web
> > development issue and the way it is coded. That is just my
> > take on it of
> > course.
> >
> >
> > Warmest regards,
> >
> > Rick Alfaro
> > rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:04 PM
> > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [blindreplay] Re: Testers needed with Applian
> Paypal
> > Order form
> >
> > Rick
> > Did you press the ENTER key on "Buy With Paypal" button?"
> You
> > will not get charged but will be taken to a Paypal page with
> a
> > log in.
> >
> > Does it take you to the Paypal log in screen with username
> and
> > password?
> >
> > JAWS 9 sees both the "Buy Now" on the first page and does
> see
> > the "Buy With Paypal" button on the second page too.
> >
> > Let us know. You are using Window Eyes.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > --- Rick Alfaro <rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Petro,
> > >
> > > I had not problems with the link to be tested using Window
> > > Eyes 6.1 and
> > > FireFox. I simply clicked on the "buy now" button and was
> > > taken to another
> > > page where there was a button that was clearly labeled as
> > "buy
> > > with PayPal".
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Warmest regards,
> > >
> > > Rick Alfaro
> > > rick.alfaro@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:blindreplay-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > petrakigianos-giasou@xxxxxxxxx
> > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:52 AM
> > > To: blindreplay@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Cc: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; pc-audio@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [blindreplay] Testers needed with Applian Paypal
> > > Order form
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > Situation is I cannot find this "continue.gif" button on
> the
> > > Replay Music order form in order to use the Paypal payment
> > > option in order to pay using Paypal funds.
> > >
> > > Ordering with a credit card is no issue. I did a podcast
> on
> > > this. This issue with the continue.gif button is probably
> on
> > > every Applian order form.
> > >
> > > So can you order with Paypal there? I use JAWS 9. I did
> > check
> > > and change my insert v settings to see if I could find
> this
> > > "continue.gif" button to be taken to the Paypal log in
> > screen
> > > but I cannot locate this continue button.
> > >
> > > Response from Applian. They definitely trying to fix this.
> > >
> > > Finding the continue.gif in order to...
> > >
> > > The image
> > > is named "continue.gif". Click that button and you are
> > given
> > > the PayPal option
> > > on the next page. It will take you to a page on the
> PayPal
> > > server that
> > > includes a PayPal order form and a PayPal login if you
> > > already
> > > have an account. I've
> > > tested the buttons and they do work normally. Please let
> me
> > > know if you are
> > > still having trouble.
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > The order form page to test is:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
https://applian.securesites.com/order_paypal.php?pkg=RARN&referral=
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > If one looks at the source code of the page you will see:
> > >
> > > " src="images-new/buttons/continue.gif" alt="Buy Now"
> > /></td>
> > >
> > > Is this not the "Buy Now" button the "continue.gif" image?
> > >
> > > I press my ENTER keyboard key on this "Buy Now" button. I
> > then
> > > am taken to a new page at:
> > >
> > > https://applian.securesites.com/order_cardinfo_paypal.php
> > >
> > > Now I see on this new page a "Buy With Paypal" button.
> > >
> > > Pressed my ENTER key on this "Buy With Paypal" button and
> it
> > > thinks I want to use a credit card. Pop up message appears
> > > with
> > > an OK button.
> > >
> > >
> > > The source code here on this page for the "Buy With
> Paypal"
> > > button is:
> > >
> > > <input name="Is_Paypal" type="image"
> > > id="Is_Paypal" src="images2/PaypalExpress.gif" alt="Buy
> with
> > > PayPal" align="middle" width="145" height="42"
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > If I am in error please tell me so. I hope I am. Tell me
> and
> > > others your experience in this.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > Petro
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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