i agree, think about it, what if you had to pee. On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:52:50 -0500 "John Melia" <uncle.jam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: JM> MessageI agree about the cane I once used a dog and always had a folding cane in my back pack. now that I don't have the dog I have a folding cane in the back pack and am using one. and anywhere I go with my sighted wife I always take a folding cane. One never knows what may happen. JM> ----- Original Message ----- JM> From: Curt JM> To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx JM> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:57 PM JM> Subject: [bct] Re: travel JM> JM> JM> Mary, JM> JM> I still have my first folding cane I got back in 1985 and have had it corded three times. I also have a folding ID cane and then one I received as a gift which has two short sections and two long sections, I leave this one standing in the corner. JM> Ther are times when my wife and I go somewhere and Faith stays home. I always take my folding cane if I don't have my dog just in case I have to go alone, like to the rest room or something. I used a cane for a few years and then decided to get a dog and have had one ever since. They are a lot of responsibility but overall I prefer a dog. Last year I saw the lady who encouraged me to get a dog from the school wher she had gotten her dog and I asked about her dog and she replied, when the dog retired, I got married so now I don't need the dog. We make choices and there are advantages and disadvantages to everything -opportunity costs. JM> Curt JM> JM> -----Original Message----- JM> From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mary Emerson JM> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:40 PM JM> To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx JM> Subject: [bct] travel JM> JM> JM> Curt, JM> JM> Yes, it's all about personal choice; I love just picking up the cane and running out the door. Then I come home and just lean it by the door and forget about it. I have one of those California canes made of carbon fiber. Although I buy the folding kind, I never fold it because the cord will get worn out. I get the folding ones because they are easier to deal with in the mail. I'd hate to think how the rigid non-collapsible ones are mailed! I guess they have to be put in a real long tube or something. JM> JM> Mary JM> JM> __________ NOD32 1.1293 (20051120) Information __________ JM> JM> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. JM> http://www.eset.com JM> -- Chris G <chrisg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Don't count your chickens before they cross the road.