I am just the opposite. I found this message to be very informative as I am needing to store 25 pounds of bird seed and needed to know how to do this. If you guys want messages of a totally technical nature go to blind tech where they are discussed. Neal I am sorry to even comment on this message but I don't want any one angered by some hot head on this list until he or she feels reluctant to post a message about something that will help us in our daily lives. I hope this is the last such post from me but if this happens again you can be sure I will pop up.