[bct] Re: Uncaring Website owners

  • From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 16:34:34 -0500

MessageHi Neal,

Yes I have used JAWS custom graphics labeler, but it has a limit of how many 
graphics labels a domain can have and I maxed it out.

It actually was started with JAWS 6.0



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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neal Ewers 
  To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 4:12 PM
  Subject: [bct] Re: Uncaring Website owners

  Rick, perhaps we should not tell the people who run the site what I am about 
to say, because they will think they won't have to make any improvements.  In 
the interim, however, there is a way in JAWS to have it create it's own alt 
text for graphics.  It's far more advanced than labeling graphics because this 
labeling mechanism is supposed to work across the entire domain.  Of course, 
you may have to have someone who can see help you find the graphics, but if you 
can tab to them, you cam create a label for them.  I believe this became 
available in JAWS 7.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
    Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:36 PM
    To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [bct] Uncaring Website owners

    Hi everyone,

    I am not sure where to start with this, so I will just tell you my story.

    There is a game site on the internet called Its Your Turn. 


    Well, I have been playing games there since late 1998 when I still had my 
sight.  Its your turn is a board game site with chess, checkers, Othello, 
connect 4, battle ship, backgammon, stratego and other variations on popular 
board games.

    My problem with the site is that the game board graphics have no text tags 
on them except the chess boards.  I went back to the site after getting JAWS.  
At first I learned to figure out the boards by the graphics file names only and 
was able to make good guesses playing a game.  

    I found 3 other blind people there playing as well as myself.  We all asked 
the owner Mr. Patrick Chu if they would consider putting Alt Text tags on the 
graphics on the game boards on a game by game basis.  They wrote back to me and 
told me that it sounded like a good idea and that they would look into it.  Yes 
I know its the standard answer we commonly get.

    Ok fast forward to today.  The game site announced the other day that they 
were testing a beta site out with all the games re written with .NET 
programming to make them much faster.

      Ok I went to the site and was hoping that since the games were all re 
written from scratch that they would have put the Alt Text on the graphics 
then.  First game I check is still not accessible.

    I wrote the web support people back and asked why the games were still not 
accessible.  They basically told me it wasn't a priority and if I was upset 
about it they would give me a refund of my membership.

    They told me as well that were looking at assistive technologies, so I 
asked them which ones since Alt Text is the most fundamental and easiest 
assistive technology there is.

    Needless to say they will no longer respond to me there.  I realize that 
the owner is under no obligation at all to make his web site accessible.  But 
you would think it would be good PR to be able to say to the disabled, "come 
play here, we are accessible for you."  I sure think it would be a good move on 
their parts.

    If anyone here is interested, its a good game site and one of the few 
online that are even close to playable for the blind.  

    Can anyone here think of any ways to encourage Mr. Chu to help us out?

    If anyone here starts playing games there and you can play for free.  
memberships just let you have unlimited moves per day and more games at a time. 
 Please contact them and tell them you want equal access to the games as the 
non disabled players have.  The more of us that ask then maybe Mr. Chu will 
decide that it would be good for his wallet as well to help us out and maybe 
have even more paying members.




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    "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of 
seeing people towards them."
    - Helen Keller, 1925



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