[bct] Re: Speech [was Transcription]

  • From: "Dana Niswonger" <dniswonger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 13:42:23 -0600

Hi Jake:
I have an Accent SA. hooked up using my serial port. I like to be able to demonstrate the difference to folks considering buying Jaws or Window Eyes. Oh yeah, I call Jaws, the shark and Window Eyes, peepers. I don't either of the companies like me for doing this but who cares.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake Joehl" <jajoehl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:34 PM
Subject: [bct] Re: Speech [was Transcription]

I like to play around with the different parameters of speech synths, and there are definitely those speech synths that I've never worked with. I do have a question though. How can I go about installing additional software synths for JAWS. The list is always there during installation, but they never seem to work right.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Cross" <tcross@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, 02 November, 2005 1:49 AM
Subject: [bct] Re: Speech [was Transcription]

I use a fast speech rate. At work I use a dectalk express and set it to at least 400, at home I use a software dectalk and have it set to a similar speed.

I've found that you get use to faster speeds and I found standard
speaking rate just too slow to get through the volume of stuff I want
to read. My braille is truely pathetic and something I've been
seriously considering learning properly.

I don't use headphones because I find it too isolating from whats
going on around me and nearly have a hart attack every time someone
taps me on the shoulder. The fast rate I listen to speech amazes
people I work with as they can't understand it. This is an added bonus
as it means I can listen to e-mails etc and not feel everyone else is
hearing my personal communication.

The only problem I have is some friends of mine who have rather
strange senses of humor and send me e-mails with content they have
written to make my speech synthesizer make odd sounds. Also, if I drop
the speech rate to a "normal" rate which everyone can understand, it
can be a bit embarrassing when you get those spam e-mails for viagra
and products designed to make certain parts of the male anatomy


Jamie Pauls writes:
> Great article. There is a lot there for a sighted person to try to
> digest. I
> can see why they may have been overwhelmed, which is the only word you
> didn't use to describe their reaction. <grin> I trust they asked some
> intelligent questions after reading the article. I have been using
> speech
> at about 440 words per minute for quite a while, but decided to kick it
> up
> to 500 wpm for a bit to see how it goes. I think it's a good idea to
> push
> the envelope a bit if possible because I am convinced the computer
> really
> does work better the faster the speech is. If I want to read something
> very
> carefully such as a manual, I may slow things down occasionally. Let's
> change the subject line and see how many folk like really fast speech
> and
> how many prefer it slower. I'm using Elloquence at 500 words per > minute.
> What are some other preferences out there?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:49 PM
> To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bct] Transcription
> This is not exactly my career cast, however, the following was an
> article I
> wrote for my office newsletter. Some people thought it was confusing,
> some
> said it was the content of the article, some said it was the concepts > in
> the
> article. It is already published, but I'd like your opinions.
> *************
> Written by Rose Combs
> Imagine you have come in to your desk to work, but your computer screen
> is
> not visible, except for one line. You can use your arrow keys to move
> around, and you can tell that you moved up/down a line. This is > similar
> to
> how a screen reader works. The two most popular screen readers in the
> states are JAWS (Job Access With Speech) and Window Eyes. The product > I
> have used since we moved into Windows 95 in 1999 is JAWS.
> JAWS takes a look at what is going on behind the scenes and then > reports
> what the screen is showing. I can see a small portion of the screen at
> a
> time, or rather, I can only hear one portion of the screen at a time.
> is controlled for the most part by the number keypad of the keyboard,
> and
> from there I can give it instructions to read the whole document, read
> the
> line I am working on, or tell it to read from the edge of the screen to
> my
> current cursor position. I can also adjust the speech rate, the voices
> used
> for various characteristics of the program, and tell it how I
> specifically
> want each program I use to work.
> There are various sound schemes that can be created, some ship with the
> product. The sound scheme I most often employ is active when I am on
> the
> internet and all the links on the page as the page is read to me are in
> a
> female voice. Quotations are in a different voice. Headings also come
> up
> in different pitches of the normal JAWS voice. If you see colors on > the
> page, I hear different voices and could also add different sounds to
> alert
> me to the various elements on a page. The catch on the internet is > that
> all
> graphical links must have an Alt tag so that JAWS will know how to tell
> me
> what it is.
> When I press F5 to enter the interfaces, it takes about 30-45 seconds
> for
> JAWS to read me the information, job number, date of dictation, MR
> number,
> report type and physician. At first, it sounds like a lot of numbers
> that
> sounds like a mess. I can, route the JAWS review cursor to the PC
> cursor
> and then re-read the line if necessary. Then when I get to the list of
> admissions/accounts, I listen to most of each line before I decide if > it
> is
> the correct admission, one line at a time with about 30 seconds per
> line,
> and I run the speech quite fast.
> JAWS comes equipped with scripts to help with spell check but does not
> detect the red lines, so I turn that feature off. I normally run spell
> check at the end of the report. While in spell check, JAWS will read
> the
> misspelled word and then the first suggestion in the list. If that is
> what
> I want I press <Alt><c> to change; otherwise, I can edit the word by
> using
> the cursor, backspace and delete keys, or I press <Tab> to the
> suggestion
> list and down arrow, at which point the next word in that list will be
> spoken and spelled. I use the typical keyboard commands to work > through
> the
> document, including adding words to the dictionary, ignoring it once or
> always and so forth.
> Generally after I do a spell check I then command Jaws to read me the
> whole
> document continuously. I run Jaws at a fast rate, approximately 500
> words
> per minute; however with years of experience and even with its ability
> to
> mispronounce many words, I recognize errors and if at any time while
> listening to the document I need to correct something I can stop the
> reading, return to where I heard the error and correct it. I also set
> Jaws
> to indicate words that are capitalized by changing the pitch of the
> voice to
> a higher pitch. If I find even one error, to my way of thinking it
> means
> better quality of work for me, so I proofread every report; however,
> some
> errors may be missed even so, I hope not many.
> Some other tools I use include the Braille Dorland's Speller in seven
> large
> volumes that is on my bookshelf, this particular one was copyrighted in
> 1965. The actual Dorland's dictionary from the same time frame is in > 49
> volumes like the ones on my desk, but they include the definitions.
> Obviously, there isn't enough room for them in the office. I do have
> access
> to things in braille now that I bought a Braille Note, a note taking
> device
> with a braille display. It has the ability to take notes, includes a
> calculator, word processor, planner, address book, and more. Because > it
> uses compact flash cards, I can store many books on the device, in
> electronic braille and access them.
> I also bought an optical character recognition (OCR) program for my > home
> computer and a scanner, then scanned some of the Stedman's word books
> into
> my computer and loaded those files onto the compact flash card for the
> Braille Note and can now call up, for example, the Stedman's Surgical
> Word
> Book. With this as an electronic file I can perform searches to find
> some
> of the information I need. Other blind MTs are loading all the
> Stedman's
> word books on compact disk to their computers.
> The last piece of equipment I may use is called an Optacon, which was
> how I
> used to read my computer screen. Essentially what this does is when I
> run a
> small camera over a page of print it converts the image to an array > that
> holds only one of my fingers and what I feel is a vibrating tactile
> representation of the printed letter. With the Optacon you only see > one
> letter at a time, and in some books if the letters are huge, you only
> see
> part of it at a time. I probably can read at about 40 words per minute
> using the machine, or could years ago anyway. My memory is also a > great
> tool, except as I get older, sometimes it seems a bit faulty, like days
> when
> words I can normally spell seem to elude me.
> Rose Combs
> rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx

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