[bct] Re: Solving the JAWS crash word problem

  • From: "Don Ball" <dball10@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:15:04 -0500

Messageyou know I am running jaws 7.1 beta and I wonder why the elequence is 
not updated in that. When I turn elequence on it shure crashes. Oh well after 
the update.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neal Ewers 
  To: Bct 
  Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:24 AM
  Subject: [bct] Solving the JAWS crash word problem

  Hello all.  Well, the party is over.  My celebration is finally finished, but 
the party may also be over for the person who is causing all the trouble.  We 
are 99% sure we know who it is and we will now have to decide what legal 
action, if any, we want to bring.

  Here are some ways to avoid the problem from now on.

  1.  The less we talk about it, the better.  This person gets off on harming 
others and then reading about it.

  2.  There is a Freedom Scientific fix for the problem.  Go to


  and follow the instructions to update Eloquence.

  3.  If you either don't want to do that or if you simply want to make sure 
that you are not harmed by this in the future, you can always set up a rule in 
your email client and have messages with the offending word go into a spam box 
or whatever folder you decide to create.  Many email clients will allow a 
string of characters to be used such that no matter what the beginning or 
ending of the word, as long as the word contains certain characters or numbers, 
all variants of that word should be placed into the chosen folder.  We can try 
to help people who may not know how to do this.

  4.  Another way to perhaps avoid similar problems in the past is to read your 
mail in the order of newest to oldest.  When I switched email clients, this is 
how my list was organized and I discovered that I liked it a lot.  There are 
good reasons to read mail in either way, but for me, I like to read the most 
recent first.  In that way, I found out about the problem before it bit me.  In 
addition, if there is a discussion that goes on for a while and someone finds a 
solution, you know about it right away and you don't have to read all the other 
messages that talk about the problem.  Of course, you can certainly read them, 
but you will know about the solution first.  I'm not suggesting that people 
need to do this.  It's definitely up to you as to the order in which you read 
your messages.  I simply offer this as an alternative.

  5.  I know that if this continues, we will definitely consider legal action.  
If, in the meantime, you feel unsafe on the list, feel free to drop off for a 
while.  We hate to lose you, but we would rather you be safe than sorry.  We 
will inform people via a podcast when we have taken care of the problem.  Then, 
perhaps, you will feel safer on the list and hopefully you will return.  I will 
also do my best to inform people who are newcomers to the list so that they can 
be protected.

  6.  Just a reminder to try very hard to cut down our conversation on this 
topic.  I am checking with FS about whether the Eloquence fix is included in 
JAWS 7.1 and I will let you know as soon as I find out.

  7.  The virtual party at my house is definitely on.  Thanks, Pam for 
suggesting it.  Feel free to drop by at any time.  If there is any of Pam's 
scotch left, I'll gladly offer you some, but Dan has already been here, so 
don't hold your breath.

  Now, let's try to move on.  I don't mean to suggest by saying this that it is 
a minor thing and that we should simply avoid it.  But some people get off on 
other people's suffering, and we can all help to diminish that kind of sick 
enjoyment by letting the subject die out.

  This is a great list.  Thank you to all of you for making it so.


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