[bct] Re: Should we do a chat on improving software accessibility?

  • From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:10:54 -0400

Thanks,

I did download it and will give it a look.  I have used Nero since 1999 but 
have noticed a gradual decline in accessibility in it.

Rick


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allison Mervis" <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: [bct] Re: Should we do a chat on improving software accessibility?


It's basically the same. It's just another alternative. I'm a faithful user
of nero myself.
Allison

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Harmon" <rickharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: [bct] Re: Should we do a chat on improving software accessibility?


> Hi Allison,
>
> What will it do that Nero will not?
>
> Rick
>
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> Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org
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> blind_geek_zone
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>
> "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of
> seeing people towards them."
> - Helen Keller, 1925
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allison Mervis" <allisonfm@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 3:20 PM
> Subject: [bct] Re: Should we do a chat on improving software
> accessibility?
>
>
> I think it's a great idea! By the way, try Premiere CD and DVD creator.
> It's
> designed for the  blind, and it will let you burn 30 disks before the
> trial
> runs out, and it's only$50. Go to
> www.readingmadeeasy.com
> and look for it under free trials.
> Allison
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Debee Norling" <debee@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "Blindcooltech@Freelists. Org" <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:27 AM
> Subject: [bct] Should we do a chat on improving software accessibility?
>
>
>> Short version: a Saturday evening chat on strategies for communicating
>> with
>> developers about how to make their software more accessible. Does this
>> interest people? Should I lead it?
>>
>> Long version:  I am in desperate need of a DVD-Writer. My husband has one
>> if
>> I get super desperate, but I need one at work, where I scan books for a
>> living so need a way to archive them, no fuss, no muss. I'm sick and
>> tired
>> of CDS and the Windows XP CD writing wizard.
>>
>> So yeah, you're saying, shop for a DVD-Writer; do a little research, buy
>> one, get boss to reimburse you, problem solved.
>>
>> Ok, so I shopped. I shopped in the store, I shopped online. There are a
>> ton
>> of DVD-Writers out there.
>>
>> Every single one comes bundled with some DVD-writing software. Some got
>> Nero
>> 6, some got Nero 7, some got Nero Express, some got Nero something else.
>> Some got a software suite from NTI. Some got a Roxio product. There about
>> twenty different versions of Roxio burning thingies. Many come with
>> software
>> I've never heard of.
>>
>> And by the way, when my husband, a sighted electrical engineer and
>> experienced computer user, installed a scaled-down Nero that came with
>> his
>> writer, it dragged in a lot of junk like the Yahoo toolbar, which he
>> didn't
>> want and had trouble removing. His Nero also clobbered Safe Mode, a known
>> bug he read about online, and it took him hours to get his system back to
>> the way it was before. I love bundled software!!!
>>
>> So, already I've used about six different CD-burning programs and my
>> favorite one is the Linux command line tool. Rick did a great job with
>> Nero,
>> but who knows if the Nero that comes with the DVD-Writer I buy is even
>> close
>> to the Nero that he reviewed. The "express" and "limited" versions of a
>> product often have a completely different interface.
>>
>> So, OK, I figure I'll just download some shareware and pick an accessible
>> burner that will probably work with the hardware I plan to buy. Yesterday
>> I
>> downloaded and tried three programs, "Swift Burning Wizard" "Deep Burner"
>> and "Zip backup to CD". All were reviewed as having a very bare-bones
>> interface, using few system resources and being particularly good for
>> archiving files.
>>
>> All of them wanted to "create projects" "create a data CD" "build a CD
>> Image" and were set up for you to drag and drop icons hither and thither.
>> They could create auto-run scripts and playlists and for all I know
>> kitchen
>> sinks. Why does software have all this extra and unnecessary complexity!
>> I
>> want to just select my files, and click a write to CD button. I don't
>> want
>> to create projects and mess around with a ton of dialog boxes.  I want
>> the
>> program to be smart enough to cope when my data fills more than one CD.
>> Like
>> why can't a program just tell you that it will need 4 CDS and start
>> burning.
>>
>> All three of these supposedly simple programs weren't simple, and more
>> important, were not very accessible. With a lot of poking around, I could
>> burn a CD, but to do it on a daily basis, in a busy work environment
>> where
>> I
>> am constantly interrupted, forget it!
>>
>> Then I listened to Tony's cast about the inaccessibility of Spyware
>> removers -- I have a rebuttal for that, but that's a different story --
>> and
>> I felt very frustrated. The reality is that software is a lot less
>> accessible than it used to be.
>>
>> So to fight back, we need to find ways to communicate with developers in
>> language they understand about the problem. It isn't enough to say, "Dear
>> Mr. Programmer: your software doesn't work with JAWS". We need to tell
>> them
>> exactly what doesn't work, why and how to fix it.
>>
>> I propose that since I like to write, and know how to program, sort of
>> anyway,  that I write a draft letter to developers and then we do a
>> brainstorming chat and all attempt to improve it.
>>
>> Once we have a good letter, we can easily tailor it for our individual
>> needs, and send it off to developers when we try to use an inaccessible
>> program. I'd concentrate on shareware and low-cost software that is sold
>> by
>> small companies online. For example, I'd talk to Patrick about Spybot
>> before
>> I'd talk to Symantech about Norton Anti-virus.
>>
>> Your thoughts, please. Should we do a chat on this? Should I craft up a
>> draft?
>>
>> --Debee
>>
>> * The biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has
>> occurred.
>>
>>
>>
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