Hi Neal, I completely agree with you in being concerned about starting some argument about which screen reader is best. As you say, by far most people will always say the one they use is best because that is the only one they know well enough to get stuff done. Very few people master more than one well enough to meaningfully judge the relative value. I have found that a lot of folks who are doing very high-level computer work such as students in engineering and other complex areas, find that it is almost necessary to own both of our main screen readers for the U.S. One will perform better in a given area than the other. Of course, people will correctly say "who can afford one, much less two", and that is truly a problem. However, it just wouldn't be possible for us to have the high-level of screen access without the work that the companies have done and they wouldn't be around without charging enough to stay in business. Anyone trying to decide which program to put their resources into should consider several factors. Which one are people they interact with using, which one is used at schools or agencies that they frequent, what kind of training and support do they have access to, and, in some cases, what specific software is important for them. I have works extensively with two screen readers for over ten years and I find that most tasks can be handle equally well with either one. The main differences have to do with the feel which gets back to what you are most familiar with. My favorite is still the one that I first earned and became used to. Bill -----Original Message----- From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:54 AM To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bct] Re: Screen readers I truly hope we are not going to get into a dialog about which screen reader is best. What we will find is that people like the one they use. They all do well in some things and not well in others. There are also many other lists devoted to them. I understand that if someone wants to make a podcast on a particular screen reader's ability to work with a particular program, then we will go down this path, but I see no reason to start it just for the sake of having something to talk about. I have seen it split up too many lists of people who normally get along until they start fighting over which screen reader is best. Answer, the best screen reader is the one any person decides to use for the things they need them for. Neal -----Original Message----- From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Riz Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:20 PM To: Blind Cool Tech Subject: [bct] Screen readers Hy all, I have always wondered which screen reader is rated as the best. I have tried all 3 of the main ones and hear are my thoughts. JFW: Works good with applications that it has been configured to work with otherwise pritty poor. Hal for windows: I find this one quite cumbersom and auquad to use and not very intuative. Window eyes: my currant screen reader, good with programs it has been configured and not bad on other programs, it is stable and quite flexable. So their we havit please feel free to comment. I am not going to get into the pricing of these screen readers on this email otherwise the soapbox will be well and truly in use.