[bct] Re: *** SPAM *** Re: found new job as Braille proofreader in cincinnati, ohio.

  • From: "Allformats" <allformats@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:57:59 +0100


As those of you who have heard my Life Cast on BCT will know, I work at
Queen Alexandra College in Birmingham UK.  I manage one of the college
enterprises, All Formats, producing Braille, large print and Audio for
access by people with a visual impairment.

Although the enterprise I specifically manage works with external
companies and organisations, QAC (Queen Alexandra College) also has a
thriving Braille teaching element as well as a number of other diverse
courses, including IT, Customer Service, Cycle Repairs and Engineering.

Just thought I would let you know and if you all have questions I would
be happy to answer them (if I can) <smile>

I would be more than happy to make a recording/soundseeing type tour
giving an insight to what we use and some of the sounds that our work
generates as a Pod cast for BCT.  I am also in the process of setting up
a QAC Pod cast which will start initially covering 'Sight Village'
(www.qac.ac.uk/sightvillage) so listen out for more.

All the best.

Paul (Birmingham UK)

-----Original Message-----
From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vince Thacker
Sent: 17 May 2006 03:16
To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bct] Re: *** SPAM *** Re: found new job as braille proofreader
in cincinnati, ohio.

i Steve, thanks so much for such a wide-ranging answer. That's one for
Saved folder!

I'm not far from Queen Alexandra College in Birmingham UK (well, it's an

hour by train) and as I understand they teach Braille there, I'd go to
experts rather than slog through it all unaided - so no correspondence 
courses for me, I agree with you.

I've had a few remote encounters with Perkins braillers - I sat next to 
someone using one in a class, and was continually worried about this 
advancing lump of metal as it chugged towards my jaw! My ears weren't
keen on it either, but I got through.

Also, someone interviewed me for a job one time and took notes with a 
perkins. It was nerve-racking enough trying to pic my way through the 
interview room, populated as it was by creaky chairs, induction loop and

one, if not two guide dogs, a wheelchair and this lumpish Perkins. Evey
I paused for breath, the good woman using it would push the carriage
or equivalent, and so every phrase of mine was punctuated with the 
vbvbvbvbnmnmvbvbvcrunnsch noise. I was supposed to be coherent in this 
situation? Hmph! Well, I got the job!

A big point for me is I do have rather gnarled guitarist's fingers, so
assessment would be pretty interesting.

While I still have a little sight, and with macular degeneration you can

never be quite sure how it might go, I might start off by looking at the

symbols. though something tells me that's a bit like swimming with one
on the bottom of the pool - mind you that's  the sort of way I'm using
computer. A bit of both worlds.

I'm sure you're right about the limited vriety of Braille books on offer
it's only common sense. But on the other hand, it was always a challenge

reading a book, and there is plenty of scope for my catching up with all
stuff I never got around to. No, I don't expect the latest contemporary 
novels, though it's a shame! On the other hand the audio book sector is
much better than it was a few years ago, I'll get my kicks somehow.

thanks a ot once again, Steve.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:37 PM
Subject: *** SPAM *** [bct] Re: found new job as braille proofreader in 
cincinnati, ohio.


On Mon, 15 May 2006 22:27:48 +0100, you wrote:

>Woud you consider a braille for beginners type of podcast? The sort of 
>I have in mind is spelling out what's involved in learning Braille, wht
>equipment to use and what the advantages are once you can use braille?

I'll be the first one to tell you that to learn Braille if you so
desire is a blind person's right, not a privilege.  If you want to
learn it, you should pursue it to the ends of the earth if you have
to.  Some state agencies won't teach it to you if you don't already
know it because they'll use the excuse that you've gotten along
without knowing it for this long in your life, you probably don't
really need to know it now.  To this, I say, balderdash!  That's the
polite answer, anyway. Who's to say you mightn't need to know it at
some point in the future of your life, but at that time there mightn't
be any possibility of actually teaching it to you--no local access to
teachers or classes, any number of reasons.

Despite what others might say, I would steer you away from learning it
via correspondence course, although many have done it thtat way
successfully.  Maybe after you learn the basics (Grade 1), a
correspondence course might be good to take you to the next level
(Grade 2), since it's building on what you'll already know at that
time, but the very beginning stuff I firmly believe should be taught
one on one, or at least in a very small class (less than five) so you
can get the individual attention you'll need in the beginning.

As for equipment, well, we can do it the hard way or the easy way.
The hard way will cost you about a Jackson ($20). The easy way,
anywhere between five and fifteen Jacksons, depending on what you can
find in the used Brailler market.

The inexpensive way--the way many of us learned Braille in school--was
to learn to write it using a slate and stylus. This is a slow go, and
if you write on anything except paper, can be very hard on the hands.
A slate and stylus work by securing the paper to a board or metal
guide with pins, then physically punching out the dots from the
reverse side of the paper using the stylus, a short handle designed to
be held by the palm and singers of one hand, with a semi-blunt point
made of metal inserted into the center.  In some situations, only a
slate will do, so it's good at least to know how to use one should you
need to.

The less stressful way is with a machine known as a Braille writer or
Brailler for short.  The Perkins Brailler is the gold standard of
these devices.  New they're about $300 or so, but you might be able to
find a used one for a third or less of that price.  There are other
manufacturers that have been making Braille writers since probably the
turn of the previous century, but none come close to working like a
Perkins does. The two main differences between Perkins Braillers and
all others are (1) with the Perkins Brailler, the embossing head
moves, whereas with the others, the entire paper carriage moves, like
the old manual typewriters; (2) while both Brailling machines roll the
paper up into themselves and dole it out line by line every time the
roller is rolled or the lever is depressed which rolls the roller, the
Perkins machine does not use pins to secure the paper in place, while
the other manufacturers use a closing clip assembly with three or four
pins which actually puncture the paper and hold it fast.

Then there's the question of your vision.  Will you learn to read
Braille visually or tactually?  If you have any problems with your
hands or fingers, including neuropathy, heavy callousing from
intensive manual labor, that's going to affect how you feel the dots.
Some of it can be overcome with training, some can't.  When you go for
your first Braille class, someone will evaluate you for this.

And I also have to tell you, when it's all said and done and you learn
the thing and are ready to tackle books, you're going to find out what
we Braille readers have known since time immemorial.  Braille is
expensive to produce, so the quantity of material in Braille is very
limited.  You'll never read a daily newspaper in Braille.  If you're
waiting to read today's current novels in Braille, you'll be waiting
until at least after the next presidential campaign, if not election,
for them to show up in your regional library for the blind.

I think your goal of making Braille personally useful for labelling
tasks is a very realistic one. That's what most people who learn
Braille after school use it for anyway.

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