[bct] Re: Running both Window-Eyes and JAWS on the same PC

  • From: "Lino Morales" <lmorales@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:14:31 -0500

Hi Steve,
Yep it will work with WindowEyes. Just unload the other.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve "The Jazz Man" Bauer" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:38 AM
Subject: [bct] Running both Window-Eyes and JAWS on the same PC



Group:

I am a Window-Eyes user.

I am facing a major challenge on my job. I must be able to administer the Cisco Call Manager, which is essentially the new Voice Over I.P. phone system.

However, the interface software that they are developing which will give me access to the Call Manager, according to Cisco, will ONLY work with JAWS.

So far, I've ben unable to find out if they have even looked at Window-Eyes and who made the decision to certify only with JAWS.

I've even made it clear for several months that I am a Window-Eyes user, but they seem to have blinders on and are hell bent on snagging a fish.

If I am forced to use JAWS for this application, is it posible to install both on the same PC and just load the one you want to use?

Even my I.T. people act as though it's no big thing, just load it and it wil speak to me.

Yeah right! Of course, they are sighted and definately know what is best for the poor little blind guy. <grin>

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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:24 AM
Subject: [bct] Re: Podcast on comparing JAWS and Window-Eyes



And, it really bothers me when so many state agencies have some administrator who decides that the one and only accepted screen reader for all blind employees and customers of their agency will be a given screen reader and none other. Almost any time I see that I automatically assume that the decision was probably made by a sighted manager somewhere who knew little or nothing about the quality of the product, but made their decision based on some political agenda.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Marla Wertman" <marla.wertman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:23 PM
Subject: [bct] Re: Podcast on comparing JAWS and Window-Eyes



: Hi everyone, I just want to say first that we are sorry for starting this, I realize that we all have very strong opinions about our screen reader. The podcast was only
: our opinion, I personally am tired of people thinking that Jaws is the only option I have known many people to go for assistive technology evaluations and they were
: not given a choice. I understand that we all have different needs and that should be considered during an evaluation.On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 09:15:37 -0800, Frank
: Lizarde wrote:
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: >I think that at the beginning they said that it was only there opinion.
: >It wasn't a feature to feature comparison.
: >----- Original Message ----- : >From: "David Tanner" <david-tanner@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:10 PM
: >Subject: [bct] Re: Podcast on comparing JAWS and Window-Eyes
:
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: >Thanks, I don't think I could have said it better. I do have one other
: >point however. I got the impression that the presenter felt that the
: >listener should believe everything that he said simply based on the fact
: >that he teaches adaptive technology. I see a lot of trainers who use that
: >approach, and it really isn't fair to the listener because it gives the
: >listener the impression right off the bat that you will be fair handed in
: >your evaluation of the products, and this was not the case in this
: >particular podcast.
:
: >I think both packages have some very good features, and they both have some
: >weaknesses. I do have to say that I am starting to see a growing number of
: >people who have been working in the access technology field for many years
: >starting to use Window-Eyes as their speech software of choice. And, we
: >have started recommending more copies of it at our agency lately. I own
: >both, and I use both. But, I would not want to be the judge of which is
: >best at this point since I really believe that I would be biased because I
: >use one much more than the other, and habits are hard to break.
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: >----- Original Message ----- : >From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >To: "Bct" <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: >Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:50 AM
: >Subject: [bct] Podcast on comparing JAWS and Window-Eyes
:
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: >:I don't really know where to start here. first of all, this was not a
: >: comparison, it was a very one sided Window-eyes propaganda piece which
: >: included incorrect statements about JAWS and some gushing remarks about
: >: why two people like Window-Eyes because they evidently don't use JAWS
: >: all that much to begin with. Real reviewers don't state their
: >: preference right off the bat. They leave it to the listener to make up
: >: their own minds, and you in no way allowed the listener to do that. In
: >: addition, you gave us very little but your word to go on because you
: >: never used either screen reader to demonstrate what you were trying to
: >: point out. . You should have named it, why I like Window-Eyes and I
: >: would have had no problem with it. In fact, I would have congratulated
: >: you for doing a fine podcast that helped people see the very fine points
: >: that Window-Eyes has. I also use both, and I find Window-eyes and JAWS
: >: work equally well if you really take the time to use both. People
: >: certainly have the right to like one screen reader over another one, and
: >: I am not trying to say that one is better then the other. But to state
: >: that you are going to compare the two and do nothing but cast
: >: disparaging remarks about one while praising the other one is very very
: >: far from a true, helpful comparison I expected from your introduction.
: >:
: >: Not angry guys, just very disappointed.
: >:
: >: Neal
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