I wonder why someone doesn't put something like this with examples into a nice presentation that perspective screen reader users could use as background information. I sure wish I had something like this when I got started, and it seems to be something that noone wants to talk about. I'd love to publish that report or an update to it, too. If someone wants to sue, we've got Dan's team on our side (rrin), but I can't see how suppressing valuable information like that is in anyone's interest. Hey, let the screen reader folks tell their side of the story, too--unedited. ----- Original Message ----- From: Slythy_Tove To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: [bct] Re: Podcast on comparing JAWS and Window-Eyes Marla, My personal opinion (for what it is worth - and since it is free, that's what it is worth) is that as programs, JFW and WE both of have positives that are beneficial and drawbacks. Dan has both. He uses JFW for more applications than WE, but in some cases WE works better for him. There are people who swear by one or the other, but largely it is probably a case of familiarity with the program, although in some cases there are other reasons. I think this is one of these "Your mileage may vary" situations as no one program will be able to equally meet all demands. If there were we'd have one operating system, one word processor, one browser, etc. because there would never be a need for anything else. Neither of them is clearly superior because what one may do very well the other may be a clunker on and vice-versa. Only in individual instances will one see specific differences - such as the ability of WE to handle one program be tter or the ability of JFW to handle a different program or application better. Although no one mentioned HAL much, the programmers have the right idea regarding artificial intelligence. If they ever get on top of their programming premise it will a phenomenal application. I was very dissapointed in the Apple offering. They dropped the ball in terms of accessibility for the blind. I use both Macs and PCs and while I don't use a screen reader, I am very attuned to the needs of the blind and partially sighted. Slithy - whose personal opinions about the management of certain companies who shall henceforth remain nameless, has nothing to do with the software, which is not responsible for the actions of the humans who own it.