[bct] Re: Noisy neighbors

  • From: "Alan Schlank" <aschlank@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:39:47 -0500

Hi Hope,

I doubt whether making a recording in your own apartment could be considered
as illegal.  Of course, it could depend upon the use you make of it.

Alan Schlank

-----Original Message-----
From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hope
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:35 PM
To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bct] Re: Noisy neighbors

Dan and everyone,
I definitely appreciate the information.  I had thought about recording some

of what goes on just to show how it sounds from my apartment, but, I then 
realized, and Dan verified, that it would probably be illegal to do that 
sort of thing.  I hate to be annoying about this, after all, it's a 
sacrifice you make when renting an apartment, but sometimes, things really 
do get a bit extreme.  I don't want to seem uptight and mean, -- after all, 
everyone's opinion of noisy is different -- but my seizures are my main 
concern.  I'm not a noise freak either, after all, I'm a musician, and you 
have to have a certain tolerance for loudness, but usually that's much more 
interesting noise than this.  If they had, say, loud music, I think it 
wouldn't be so grating to the ear, but the noise is usually screaming, and 
other negative things related to that, and not just the child screaming 
Anyway, enough of my complaining for today.  I already feel like I've done 
that quite enough.  Thanks again though everyone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jake Joehl" <jajoehl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: [bct] Re: Noisy neighbors

> Hi Dan. Your mention of noisy neighbors got me to thinking about
> something.
> Every night my roommate and I have to put up with this too. Actually I am
> quite used to it from living with noisy au pairs and their friends and 
> such.
> But my roommate absolutely can't stand it. The apartment up above us is 
> home to a mother and two of her sons, although one is away at college most

> of the time and the third son lives in downtown Chicago. At night when all

> three or even two of them are home, they like to wrestle. My roommate has 
> at times taken it upon himself to go up and pound on their door, and very 
> rudely tell them to please tone it down or cut it out. But I swear every 
> time he does this, I can't hear him because my door is shut. I think he's 
> rather unpopular now since he is so mean to them. They aren't even that 
> loud, at least I don't think they are. It just sounds loud because they're

> so close by. But they're a very nice family.
> BTW, the technicians who were out here said that our server problems were 
> caused by the weather.
> Jake
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "The Scarlet Wombat" <coconut@xxxxxxx>
> To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December, 2005 7:54 AM
> Subject: [bct] Noisy neighbors
>> Hope, your situation may not be hopeless.  What?  Me, make a pun?
>> Anyway, where was I before I so rudely interrupted myself.  Oh yes, 
>> the noisy neighbors above your head.
>> Since you have tried to resolve the issue with them, there are other 
>> directions you may go.  First, scan in your lease if you have a 
>> scanner and read every word.  There may be a noise policy in your 
>> apartment complex or a good neighbor policy that is being violated.  
>> Next, contact the management and alert them to the continueing 
>> problem and, if they seem unresponsive, provide documentation of your 
>> medical condition and need for
>> sleep during the reasonable night hours.
>> If this gets you nowhere, contact the attorney general of your state 
>> and seek to learn if there are laws or court decisions regarding 
>> tennant rights and noise of other tennants.  Several states have laws 
>> and court decisions that, basically, tell landlords they are 
>> responsible for keeping tennants quiet and orderly.
>> There is a legal principle in play in all states called "quiet
>> enjoyment."
>> This dates from the old English common law.  When you have what is called
>> a leasehold estate, your rental contract, basically, you have the right 
>> to
>> quiet enjoyment.  Some states take this more seriously than others.  I do
>> not know where you are located, so have no clue about your state.
>> I would suggest recording the child screaming, but in many states, 
>> recording another person without their knowledge is illegal, and I'd 
>> not want you to run afoul of the law.
>> Good luck,
>> Dan
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