[bct] Re: Noisy neighbors

  • From: "Hope" <musicofhope@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:35:06 -0500

Dan and everyone,
I definitely appreciate the information. I had thought about recording some of what goes on just to show how it sounds from my apartment, but, I then realized, and Dan verified, that it would probably be illegal to do that sort of thing. I hate to be annoying about this, after all, it's a sacrifice you make when renting an apartment, but sometimes, things really do get a bit extreme. I don't want to seem uptight and mean, -- after all, everyone's opinion of noisy is different -- but my seizures are my main concern. I'm not a noise freak either, after all, I'm a musician, and you have to have a certain tolerance for loudness, but usually that's much more interesting noise than this. If they had, say, loud music, I think it wouldn't be so grating to the ear, but the noise is usually screaming, and other negative things related to that, and not just the child screaming either.
Anyway, enough of my complaining for today. I already feel like I've done that quite enough. Thanks again though everyone.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake Joehl" <jajoehl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: [bct] Re: Noisy neighbors

Hi Dan. Your mention of noisy neighbors got me to thinking about something.
Every night my roommate and I have to put up with this too. Actually I am
quite used to it from living with noisy au pairs and their friends and such.
But my roommate absolutely can't stand it. The apartment up above us is home to a mother and two of her sons, although one is away at college most of the time and the third son lives in downtown Chicago. At night when all three or even two of them are home, they like to wrestle. My roommate has at times taken it upon himself to go up and pound on their door, and very rudely tell them to please tone it down or cut it out. But I swear every time he does this, I can't hear him because my door is shut. I think he's rather unpopular now since he is so mean to them. They aren't even that loud, at least I don't think they are. It just sounds loud because they're so close by. But they're a very nice family.
BTW, the technicians who were out here said that our server problems were caused by the weather.
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Scarlet Wombat" <coconut@xxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December, 2005 7:54 AM
Subject: [bct] Noisy neighbors

Hope, your situation may not be hopeless.  What?  Me, make a pun?

Anyway, where was I before I so rudely interrupted myself.  Oh yes, the
noisy neighbors above your head.

Since you have tried to resolve the issue with them, there are other
directions you may go. First, scan in your lease if you have a scanner
and read every word. There may be a noise policy in your apartment
complex or a good neighbor policy that is being violated. Next, contact
the management and alert them to the continueing problem and, if they seem
unresponsive, provide documentation of your medical condition and need for
sleep during the reasonable night hours.

If this gets you nowhere, contact the attorney general of your state and
seek to learn if there are laws or court decisions regarding tennant
rights and noise of other tennants. Several states have laws and court
decisions that, basically, tell landlords they are responsible for keeping
tennants quiet and orderly.

There is a legal principle in play in all states called "quiet enjoyment."
This dates from the old English common law. When you have what is called
a leasehold estate, your rental contract, basically, you have the right to
quiet enjoyment. Some states take this more seriously than others. I do
not know where you are located, so have no clue about your state.

I would suggest recording the child screaming, but in many states,
recording another person without their knowledge is illegal, and I'd not
want you to run afoul of the law.

Good luck,


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