MessageNeil, on a good program, how far should i be able to go? It does seem that with this program, I get artifacts no matter how little i reduce. this program is free though, so this does not surprise me. Does sound Forge do this well? I have considered purchasing it for a long time for other reasons. So far though, i have not done anything too complicated as far as audio editing is concerned, so what I have has worked. however, i like the interface of Sound Forge, and always thought that is what I would get if I ever decided to purchase anything.