One of the problems with cardioid mikes is simply that. They are very hard to wind protect without a lessening of high frequency. Shure makes a wind screen that goes over microphones that are basically cylinder shaped with know large pop screen on the end of the mike. I don't remember their diameter, but the nice thing is that they are not a solid ball of foam. The outside is foam and the inside is a much more porous foam like substance which lets more air and sound pass through it. The end result is that you basically have a ball of hollow foam which does not deaden the highs as much but is not quite as protective as a solid ball of foam. When I record with cardioids or figure 8 mikes, I always use a zeppelin and perhaps one or two wind covers. Neal -----Original Message----- From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Don Ball Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:17 AM To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bct] Re: Microphone Suggestions And More Neal I have the AT853 pare Of audio technica Mics. They are very sensative mics so they must be very quiet. I paid about $159 for the pare. The problem is they are not good outdoor mics as they are so sensative that if the wind blows the elements will flutter a bit. I think they were built to record classical music. If the wind is not blowing I can record some good nature sounds with them. I can hear anmials moving through the leaves and such with these mics.