[bct] Re: Making things cross disability accessible

  • From: "Don" <donter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:06:08 -0500

Yes, like the blind people who hate the curb cuts, and so on and so on. 

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From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 2:40 PM
To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bct] Making things cross disability accessible

Vince, You said, "People with visual stress, dyslexics, those with limited
movement and deaf people all present different needs too, so it's no wonder
things aren't quite perfect yet!"

What can sometimes be troubling is the hard work that goes in to making
something cross disability accessible.  There seem to be people in each
disability community who will work their heads off to get something they
need even if it means that the product is not accessible to people who have
other disabilities.  And there are some disability groups that seem to have
more clout than others.  Why, for example, does the Randolph Shepard act say
that people who are blind have first rights to vending stands.  In years
past, those stands were quite small and often sold candy, smokes, etc.  Now,
some of them are large food service establishments.  So, why is someone who
is blind more qualified to run such an establishment than someone who is in
a wheel chair, or deaf, or has no arms?  But you can be assured, that if
congress decided to give other disability groups equal rights to this perk,
a lot of people who are blind would be ready to fight that change with all
their might.  So, now you see how hard it is to work with groups of people
with varying disabilities.  I did this at Trace all the time, and it could
be some of the most divisive posturing I have ever seen.


Neal


-----Original Message-----
From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vince Thacker
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:41 PM
To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bct] Re: FW: Introducing DbDialog: a free, accessible database
manager


Neal,

I have to admit accessibility is a darned complicated theing, as I know from
trying to create accessible web pages and failing miserably sometimes. 
People with visual stress, dyslexics, those with limited movement and deaf
people all present different needs too, so it's no wonder things aren't
quite perfect yet!

Vnice.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: [bct] Re: FW: Introducing DbDialog: a free, accessible database

manager


> Vince, you say, "When I run it I don't see any scaleable fonts, any 
> color contrasts."
>
> Thank you for pointing out that many people who may be on this list 
> may have some limited vision.  We often get so rapped up in speech and

> braille that we forget about those who need color contrast, large 
> text, etc.  Thanks for keeping us on our toes.
>
> Neal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vince Thacker
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:52 AM
> To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bct] Re: FW: Introducing DbDialog: a free, accessible 
> database manager
>
>
> I've had a quick look at this and have to ask my usual question, "What

> do you mean by accessible?"
>
> When I run it I don't see any scaleable fonts, any colour contrasts or

> even a single Tooltip.  Every time I press anything I get an error 
> message that is basically a line of code with ifs and thens.
>
> Very ppor job in my opinion.
> Vince.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Pauls" <jamiepauls@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <accesscomp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:35 PM
> Subject: [bct] FW: Introducing DbDialog: a free, accessible database 
> manager
>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On

>> Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:40 PM
>> To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Introducing DbDialog: a free, accessible database manager
>>
>> Now available at
>> http://www.empowermentzone.com/dbdsetup.exe
>>
>> Since developing database applications under DOS in the early 1990s, 
>> I have had a goal of developing them under Windows.  Thus, I am 
>> pleased to announce
>> DbDialog:  a free database manager.  It achieves a high level of both 
>> functionality and accessibility by exploiting capabilities of
standard
>> Windows controls.
>>
>> The program supports tables of records in Microsoft Access format. 
>> Once a table is defined, records may be created, modified, browsed, 
>> searched, and output in an efficient manner.  Initially, sample 
>> tables
>
>> are defined for tracking contacts, events, and albums.  Complete 
>> documentation is available in an HTML file with structured headings.
>>
>> I welcome feedback and contributions toward the improvement of 
>> DbDialog.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jamal
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