[bct] Re: Hybrid car silence, a fly in the ointment

  • From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:41:37 -0500

Larry, I agree with what you say, and because many of these signaling
devices are not a constant tone, but instead, a pulsing one, you can
hear the traffic between the beeps of the warning device.  It's places
that don't have them or places that just have stop signs and no lights
and places in more outlying areas that I worry about.  True, in outlying
areas, it may be quiet enough to hear the car, unless, of course, the
person in the yard behind you is mowing their lawn.  Perhaps this is a
call for getting more walk and don't walk signs equipped with devices
that would allow people to hear them.  But I don't know what to do about
the other examples.


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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:34 AM
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Subject: [bct] Re: Hybrid car silence, a fly in the ointment

I don't think audible signals preclude listening for traffic.  it is the
same as a sighted person seeing a Walk sign at the crosswalk.  They are
still going to look to make sure noone is running the light.

>>> neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:35:47 AM >>>
Well, I just thought of a problem with all our solutions.  How do many
people who are blind or have low vision know when to cross the street in
some cities?  they hear the beeping of the walk and don't walk signs as
we hear on Larry's podcasts.  How do people on country roads keep from
getting run over.  the driver is supposed to watch out for people in
many of these situations.  In other words, if I were an auto
manufacturer, I would say that it is up to cities and drivers to keep
people safe.  After all, there are a lot of quiet cars that are not
hybrid.  True, they are not as quiet, but I am guessing that there are a
lot of elderly people who don't hear them and thus they depend on the
noise of the walk and don't walk signs and they depend on the driver to
be aware of them on country roads.  So, if this is how the world works,
why would I as an auto manufacturer go to a lot of trouble and expense
to put in something that would not be needed if other people, namely
cities and drivers, did their job.  Actually, I think they would have a
good point.

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