[bct] Re: Hybrid car silence, a fly in the ointment

  • From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:37:13 -0500

Kevin, as for the tire noise on the pavement, I would have to
respectfully disagree.  My garage is almost totally quiet and when my
friend Mary started out, I could barely hear her.  So, I'm standing at
the corner and I think it is time for me to walk.  What I don't know is
that 6 feet to my left is a hybrid car.  By the time it gets to me, the
noise of its wheels on the pavement is not going to be something I hear,
even in moderately noisy traffic.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:blindcooltech-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Reves
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:26 AM
To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bct] Re: Hybrid car silence, a fly in the ointment

I've never been in a City that had audible crossings. When I would do my
mobility lessons in San Rafel Ca back in Junior High, Iwas expected to
hear my purpindicular traffic serge. What everyone is overlooking with
this silent car thing is that most  of the time, the sounds you're
hearing of the car is not the motor, but the tires on the pavement. If a
car's motor is silent, it still makes noise on account of the rubber on
the pavement. I don't think this will be a problem for anyone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Neal Ewers <mailto:neal.ewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: blindcooltech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: [bct] Hybrid car silence, a fly in the ointment

Well, I just thought of a problem with all our solutions.  How do many
people who are blind or have low vision know when to cross the street in
some cities?  they hear the beeping of the walk and don't walk signs as
we hear on Larry's podcasts.  How do people on country roads keep from
getting run over.  the driver is supposed to watch out for people in
many of these situations.  In other words, if I were an auto
manufacturer, I would say that it is up to cities and drivers to keep
people safe.  After all, there are a lot of quiet cars that are not
hybrid.  True, they are not as quiet, but I am guessing that there are a
lot of elderly people who don't hear them and thus they depend on the
noise of the walk and don't walk signs and they depend on the driver to
be aware of them on country roads.  So, if this is how the world works,
why would I as an auto manufacturer go to a lot of trouble and expense
to put in something that would not be needed if other people, namely
cities and drivers, did their job.  Actually, I think they would have a
good point.

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